Posted by Broodmother Capabilities

xXSombraXx (#77808)

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2019-12-08 16:11:03
I'm thinking that as a Broodmother levels up that she can start protecting more cubs as her level gets higher because it's extremely frustrating only being able to have 4 broodmothers while being able to have 200 cubs which all can't be protected.

A level 1 BM would only be able to protect 5 and then once she gets to like level 2 or 3 she can protect 1 more cub so it doesn't get to OP, and then so on.

There should also be a max of cubs they could protect due to someone just leveling a lioness by hunting and then switching them, so maybe like 10 cubs max on a regular lioness and maybe like 11 or 12 on a nurturing so they still have their extra cub!

Edit: Someone asked how broodmothers level, they would level just as they usually do, by protecting cubs! They DO in fact gain experience by being given cubs to protect and will gain experience from each cub they protect every rollover!

Edit: Here are two examples of unhunted leveled up broodmother lionesses!

https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794131868715

https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794129344730



This suggestion has 261 supports and 10 NO supports.



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Edited on 02/02/20 @ 20:35:26 by xXSombraXx (#77808)

Nala (#190324)

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Posted on
2019-12-08 16:12:13
totally support



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2019-12-08 16:14:47
I think there's a reason why broodmothere are allowed to keep only 5 (6 with some exceptions). How would this broodmother level up in the first place? She can't hunt, does she interact with the cubs and gain experience? A level 10 broodmother for example, would be able to keep 30 cubs if she could keep 3 cubs per level... 1 lioness tending for 30 cubs? At the end, it seems very OP to me. I'm not sure why you would have 200 cubs and only 5 broodmothers in the first place.




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xXSombraXx (#77808)

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2019-12-08 16:17:44
I'm not saying they get three cubs every level. Im saying every one to two levels they get ONE more cub. And some people dont have the money to buy more territory and the number of broodmothers corresponds to how much territory you have. Also, Im not saying I have 200 cubs, I'm saying I COULD.

Edit: I edited the post to make it simpler to follow :3



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Edited on 08/12/19 @ 16:21:25 by xXSombraXx (#77808)

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2019-12-08 16:21:17
Okay then, my bad for misreading. I Support it then lol



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Robin (BLM) - Gen4
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2019-12-08 16:36:28
No support

Having a nurturing lioness allows for her to be able to protect 6 cubs. 4 nurturing broodmothers would account for 24 cubs, which I know still wouldn’t cover up to 200, but hear me out. Cubs don’t need broodmothers to survive. I only have one broodmother on my side to account for cubs that I want to keep alive to adolescence/adulthood, and even then I typically only have to use her for a day. Keeping up with playing with cubs that aren’t protected helps their chance of survival, and, provided they don’t get into too many accidents, some cubs won’t need to be protected at all with this method (so far on my side I’ve only lost 2 cubs doing this, but they would’ve gone to the tree anyway).

Basically, prioritizing which cubs you protect and being sure to play with them all daily makes broodmothers fairly obsolete even with hundreds of cubs (although I admit it would be a little tedious to keep up with). My advice would be try to have as many nurturing broodmothers as possible, protect the important cubs, and maybe invest in FAPA if possible if there’s going to be a lot of cubs.



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Edited on 08/12/19 @ 16:36:42 by R (#171993)

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Posted on
2019-12-08 16:51:23
Reply to Maneater:

Thanks for explaining!

My counter is, the problem is that you lost those two cubs. I get nearly all of my SB from selling cubs that I myself don't want to keep so I don't want to take the chance of ny of them dying!

Not to mention how tedious playing with all those cubs can get! I don't have the money to get FAPA either so I can't do that. Plus, I don't play often enough to want to do something like that and my time on the game is short as is because of my busy life.

Another point I have is nurturing lionesses aren't all that easy to come by. I only have four, and that's from buying two and breeding two out of 55 lions (females only). 4 out of 55 aren't great odds, especially when I had to buy 2. Plus, I'm not even keeping one because it's not up to my standard of lion, which for people with small territories who can't buy more,it's important to only keep the ones that are wanted and liked.

Again, thanks for explaining! I hope this explains my view too!



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Robin (BLM) - Gen4
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2019-12-08 17:01:17
On the note of losing the cubs I will say that I made no effort to protect them given they were unimportant and headed to the tree. Had I protected them for even a day, that would have been enough to keep them alive.

You make some good points, but I still can’t support when there are ways to keep cubs alive without broodmothers.



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xXSombraXx (#77808)

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2019-12-08 17:07:01
Reply to Maneater #2:

Alrighty, thanks again!

I'm sure I won't change your mind, you seem pretty adamant, but I'll add this, what's the harm in making something a tad less hard because adding one cub every few levels (cause if the admins think 2-3 levels is still OP they can still up it) isn't really imbalancing anything, plus it'd be pretty natural even in a real situation, the more something (in this case a lion) does something (babysits) the better it gets at it and the more it can take on!



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2019-12-08 18:24:29
I'll support, but I think there should be a cap somewhere, like maybe 10 cubs maximum? It would be all too easy to level a lioness up with hunting before having her protect upwards of 30 cubs.



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xXSombraXx (#77808)

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2019-12-08 18:25:36
Reply to Veni:

Ah! I didn't think of that! Thanks so much, I'll add that!



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Naza | g2
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2019-12-08 22:31:05
I support with the cap idea. I have 42 territory, and 5 broodmothers. I don’t often keep cubs I don’t like or don’t fit my projects but it would be nice to not have to struggle in case I do somehow keep more than those amounts of cubs. Like I mass breed NCLs a lot lately. I’m having 26 cubs born TOMORROW. In one day. What happens if I like all of them? I can’t protect them all cause I have previous cubs protected as well. So, support here.



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xXSombraXx (#77808)

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2019-12-08 22:32:27
Reply to recklessgod:

Thank you! Your support means a ton! And I definitely know the struggle!



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2019-12-21 22:26:15

No support.

As someone who regularly mass breeds and currently has 95 cubs between both of my dens and rarely has any of them die on their own, broodmothers aren't much of a problem and don't really need to be increased. Adols do not need to be protected, so realistically you could just protect the cub until it's 1 year old and then remove it from protection and add a cub who does need the protection. Which works great if you're selling a whole bunch of cubs at the same time but have different ages, the ones that become adol first just swap out of the broodmothers.

What R has mentioned is entirely possible, and already works in the game. There is no need to increase the number of cubs that a lioness protects. But adding to what they mentioned, the Feed-All-Play-All also increases cub survival chance. Using the "interact with pride" button increases survival chance by 20%, so that eliminated the "tediousness" of playing with all the cubs you want to keep if you're selling them.





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Edited on 21/12/19 @ 22:26:28 by Kaliyana (#11505)

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Posted on
2019-12-24 14:10:45
I have never had more then like... 50 cubs at a time XD

With 40 territory


You van have a broodmother per 10 territory from my knowledge...

If you have 200 cubs.. You probs have a lot of territory. Therefore more broodmothers.



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Posted on
2019-12-24 14:11:36
"Level just as they usually do"
That dont work. Females level up by hunting. Broodmothers cant hunt. They dont level up.



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