-LOCKED - Rumble Marking Clarification
Posted on 2020-05-05 15:40:51

Rumble Markings



As per our last news post, we would like to give you an update on the status of the rumble markings.

We have had a small number of threads over the past few days pop up discussing this marking with comments ranging from dislike of the marking, to the marking making them feel uncomfortable, to the marking having the potential to cause a seizure. We take comments like this very seriously and went further to investigate this.

Today, we sought legal clarification over the marking. We have been advised that we are compliant and meet all legal requirements and there is no reason that the marking should be removed from the game or that any additional warning notice needs to be given out. Additionally, the marking itself was not flagged as a typical risk.

However, we have decided to go above and beyond the requirements and have added a warning to our Terms of Service. This also concerns user submitted content. Users can display content of their choice (within reason, and assuming it complies with our Terms and Code of Conduct) on their den pages, in their avatars, lion bios, topic posts, etc. Most of these are not moderated in advance, and only when they are reported to us, so we feel it is now prudent to include this warning in our terms regardless.

We must ask that if you have noticed any adverse effects while accessing Lioden at any point, to discontinue use of the site immediately and seek medical help from a physician.

Rumble markings are now back on the site and the applicator has returned to Vashkartzen’s reputation shop. We will be keeping them in the second, revised version that was posted recently.

Rather than discuss this ad nauseum, we have made a final decision, and we will not be accepting any new suggestion threads, petitions or campaigns for the marking to be removed or adjusted. The marking can be discussed, but when the discussion descends into fighting, disrespect or bashing of the site and staff, you will be asked to stop discussing it. Failure to comply will result in action taken against your account. This is the same as any other topic discussed on Lioden.

Due to some of the conduct on the site from a small minority of players recently, we feel that we need to remind users of the Terms of Service point 6.2.b:
“You also agree that you will not in connection with the Game:
publish or send any Content (including links or references to other content), or otherwise behave in a manner, which:
is defamatory, threatening, harassing, invasive of privacy, offensive, vulgar, racist, hateful, discriminatory, obscene, pornographic, sexually suggestive, misleading, abusive or deceptive or which attacks sexual orientation, promotes self-harm or eating disorders, involves murder, rape, suicide, terrorism, excessive gore or hacking;”

Chat



In light of recent events, we've implemented a filter in the chat room. Certain words and/or phrases are now blocked, and attempting to use them will result in you being timed out from posting in chat for 60 seconds. Intentionally attempting to get around this filter will result in actions being taken against your account, as the filter itself contains very serious words and phrases that we have never allowed to be used.

Staff members are now able to timeout players for 60 seconds as well, to assist with anyone that is intentionally causing issues in chat. Please continue to flag and report inappropriate messages as you see them, however.

Along with this chat update, we have also implemented a way for players to disable the visual ping effects. You can find this toggle under the gear settings in chat. This toggle is stored to your account and carries over through devices. You can turn on and turn off ping effects as necessary.

Admin Edit: Main Chat will remain paused for the rest of the day. We will look into unpausing Main Chat during EU morning hours. Thank you for your patience.



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Edited on 05/05/20 @ 16:32:02 by Katze (#3)

Hireath G2 RLC Sepia (#179216)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:20:00
Seriously? Some of you. A health condition isn't someones own fault. And a damn health condition can't be compared to an allergy. Many people still get allergic reactions from food because /people/ don't warn others. Someone with this help condition won't know a lion has it beforehand, smh. I look for studs through the search and there isn't anything that would be like "Oh! This lion has the Rumble marking" to stop them from having a seizure.



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Forest Dweller (#127263)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:20:03
(: Just keep smiling :) (: Just keep smiling :) (: Just keep smiling :) LOL :) I am just a happy person guys :) I try to stay that way :) That is the best way to be I think :)



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Captain (#116042)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:20:14
Very disappointed about the move on rumble. Should've just removed it, you're not making it look like you care about the health of players, but just the feelings of the staff who worked on the marking.



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{Shamhna} 🎃 [S] (#9102)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:20:23
I think that a lot of you are missing the "seek medical help from a physician." part. If you do have a legitimate problem like seizures then you should definitely stop playing to get help. If something is hazardous to your health then you should stop and get help asap, when/if your condition becomes manageable then maybe you could come back. Worry more about getting yourself help, not some marking. Please take care of yourselves.



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AkiraRose (#164628)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:20:40
And people need to chill the hell out. It’s a marking for goodness sake. What happened to be kind? It appears a lot of you have become keyboard warriors and it’s vile. A lot of you need to grow up. How would you all feel if someone was hollering abuse at your family members? BE KIND ALWAYS.



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Mwothyman (#138189)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:21:13
The reason so many people voted for it was because they didnt know what it was doing to people. @Queen Birb



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Karmo (#98909)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:21:28
I know people enjoy the marking, but this solution just isn't really a good one?
Medical conditions are NOT the same for everyone.
Depression with one person can be extremely different for someone else with depression.
Removing the marking may be a bit much, but at least some sort of adjustment where it isn't extremely cluttered (I'm sure removing a few squiggles could of made it at least a bit better).

I'm glad that the staff did indeed acknowledge this, but I can't say that this was the best way to go.
And to say that to stop playing if certain things can trigger you just isn't really fair, it's not the people's fault that this happens, and for many, many people, this site is a safeplace for them.

[EDIT]
Also, some people cannot receive medical help, especially nowadays.



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Edited on 05/05/20 @ 16:27:12 by Karmo (#98909)

Birb (#172023)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:21:38
To be fair, if people survived fine without this marking before, they wouldn't die without it.



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Vee ♥ (#112135)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:22:14
I’m personally very disappointed with this. I’m not going to waste my energy writing out a huge response. But I’m absolutely appalled by this.



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Suzaku (#115061)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:22:19
heck yes br o t h e r r rr r



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Kiri #BLM (#29513)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:22:40
Also the poll was very misleading. The original petition that was put up was top remove or change the PATTERN of Rumble. Staff did not include this option in the poll. Most people DON'T want Rumble removed, but DO want Rumble's pattern to be TWEAKED to be suitable for our fellow LD players with medical issues, all they did was offer to fade the mark, but the opacity was never the problem.



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Edited on 05/05/20 @ 16:23:26 by Kiri[5.4k MR/EHR Velvet Ferus] (#29513)

Kaori (#2793)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:22:58
Thanks for the good work and for everything you do! 💖 you guys are amazing



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Felis (#198992)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:22:58
I feel really bad about this whole thing. If people were smarter and just ignore it, ignored all the other poeple who just cant have their mouth shut about this. There isnt anything easier than ignore something. If yall ignored this, this wouldnt happen.
I just dont like the thing about the filters in chat room. At least write here which words arent right? This would help too.



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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:23:01
I am interested in how to disable this marking, this is first, and secondly where it can be seen at all ...
Upd. Don't worry, I'm not an epileptic, but I just really don't find anything like this in the settings and smacks of a cover-up.



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Kamidere [G4
Sunrise] (#155815)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:23:02
A lot of people use this place as an escape, and have spent large sums of money on it. It’s ignorant to tell people to just stand up and leave just because ya’ll wanna cover your asses :// Sounds real considerate.



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