-LOCKED - Rumble Marking Clarification
Posted on 2020-05-05 15:40:51

Rumble Markings



As per our last news post, we would like to give you an update on the status of the rumble markings.

We have had a small number of threads over the past few days pop up discussing this marking with comments ranging from dislike of the marking, to the marking making them feel uncomfortable, to the marking having the potential to cause a seizure. We take comments like this very seriously and went further to investigate this.

Today, we sought legal clarification over the marking. We have been advised that we are compliant and meet all legal requirements and there is no reason that the marking should be removed from the game or that any additional warning notice needs to be given out. Additionally, the marking itself was not flagged as a typical risk.

However, we have decided to go above and beyond the requirements and have added a warning to our Terms of Service. This also concerns user submitted content. Users can display content of their choice (within reason, and assuming it complies with our Terms and Code of Conduct) on their den pages, in their avatars, lion bios, topic posts, etc. Most of these are not moderated in advance, and only when they are reported to us, so we feel it is now prudent to include this warning in our terms regardless.

We must ask that if you have noticed any adverse effects while accessing Lioden at any point, to discontinue use of the site immediately and seek medical help from a physician.

Rumble markings are now back on the site and the applicator has returned to Vashkartzen’s reputation shop. We will be keeping them in the second, revised version that was posted recently.

Rather than discuss this ad nauseum, we have made a final decision, and we will not be accepting any new suggestion threads, petitions or campaigns for the marking to be removed or adjusted. The marking can be discussed, but when the discussion descends into fighting, disrespect or bashing of the site and staff, you will be asked to stop discussing it. Failure to comply will result in action taken against your account. This is the same as any other topic discussed on Lioden.

Due to some of the conduct on the site from a small minority of players recently, we feel that we need to remind users of the Terms of Service point 6.2.b:
“You also agree that you will not in connection with the Game:
publish or send any Content (including links or references to other content), or otherwise behave in a manner, which:
is defamatory, threatening, harassing, invasive of privacy, offensive, vulgar, racist, hateful, discriminatory, obscene, pornographic, sexually suggestive, misleading, abusive or deceptive or which attacks sexual orientation, promotes self-harm or eating disorders, involves murder, rape, suicide, terrorism, excessive gore or hacking;”

Chat



In light of recent events, we've implemented a filter in the chat room. Certain words and/or phrases are now blocked, and attempting to use them will result in you being timed out from posting in chat for 60 seconds. Intentionally attempting to get around this filter will result in actions being taken against your account, as the filter itself contains very serious words and phrases that we have never allowed to be used.

Staff members are now able to timeout players for 60 seconds as well, to assist with anyone that is intentionally causing issues in chat. Please continue to flag and report inappropriate messages as you see them, however.

Along with this chat update, we have also implemented a way for players to disable the visual ping effects. You can find this toggle under the gear settings in chat. This toggle is stored to your account and carries over through devices. You can turn on and turn off ping effects as necessary.

Admin Edit: Main Chat will remain paused for the rest of the day. We will look into unpausing Main Chat during EU morning hours. Thank you for your patience.



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Edited on 05/05/20 @ 16:32:02 by Katze (#3)

maddi (#81945)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:07:05
Honestly, I think the chat thing and how the admins acted/ are acting is stupid. But oh well, not much will be done lol



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nico (#199820)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:07:09
what does anyone have to gain from lying about adverse effects to the marking??



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🩸 [G4 Dawn
Fissure] (#92039)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:07:13
give me two reasons as to why we need to cater to a group of children versus the entire community?

ill wait.



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Venex 🌸 [G2] (#167020)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:07:21
While I think it was a good choice to add to the ToS, the wording of it in the news post kinda comes of as, self-congratulatory. Like, you're just giving yourselves a pat on the back huh.

I also feel it's incredibly irresponsible to keep the marking in it's current state. I'm very disappointed in this decision. Just because you don't HAVE to make a change doesn't mean that it still shouldn't be made. I hope at the VERY least the site artists will be more thoughtful in designing future markings to avoid something like this from happening ever again.



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bambinosaur/2rose/KU
N/pi (#101401)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:07:25
Woah. Took a week off and missed everything LOL



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Edited on 05/05/20 @ 16:08:05 by bambinosaur (#101401)

11.24.17 RL Project (#141146)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:07:36
agree with serval



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Ciris (#147468)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:07:57
Honestly this aftermath complaining and arguing isn't going to get anyone anywhere. If you don't agree with the tos or the decision made then it's best to leave.



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Abstract | 5k
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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:08:01
"give me two reasons as to why we need to cater to a group of children versus the entire community?

ill wait."

YAS. Amen.



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<< Sugar
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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:08:32
I'm happy that everything worked out good



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Sir Valentine II (#18465)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:09:11
Just a thing to mention; This is a game. If said game gives you health issues then play something else? I thought they did a good job here :)



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Mwothyman (#138189)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:09:53
The fact that people are defending a marking that could have been completely changed to better suit the cracks in lava (thus tying into the next event) is honestly disheartening. I am beyond tempted to leave but i have spent money pn this game and I just dont know what to do. I really do love this game but should I stay and hope better things come, or should I just leave to avoid the next shitshow.

(Also, thanks to this news post, I now know who to block, i just hope a feature gets added so blocked lions dont show up. Ill avoid the marking as best as possible as yet again- ive spent money on this game and i am not going to leave that easily)



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maddi (#81945)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:10:17
@ heda,, right? "above and beyond" lmao



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Thunder (G1
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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:10:18
Thank you Lioden team for handling this situation right. It’s not possible to make everyone happy but everyone is to be responsible for their own health conditions. And the Mods already consulted official help regarding a simple piece of coding.

I don’t see what they could do better in all of this. It’s just that some who demanded the change were being just way too rude. And in the first place, if a marking bothers one so adversely, just quit the game. Your mental and physical health is more important than digitally-coded felines.



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fishyalien (#205837)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:10:27
Incredibly disappointed. Adding a warning to your ToS is the bare minimum, not "above and beyond." Will be deactivating my account and taking your advice to just "Cease playing The Game immediately." I don't want to support a game that takes its player base this lightly.



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Fire 🔥🇵🇸
(g1 fringe) (#131929)

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Posted on
2020-05-05 16:10:51
I think the pure lack of empathy for people with serious medical issues within this comment section is rather sad...



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