-LOCKED - Community Update #113!
Posted on 2021-07-09 14:16:12

Community Update
As we mentioned before, aside from event news and the 2nd Friday of the month being focused on coding/art updates all at once, all other Fridays are centered around the community!


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Official Lioden Raffle


LINK - This is our official community update raffle. Everyone gets a chance to win a rare prize, plus something extra for any runner ups. These raffles have a very minimal ticket price, and there is a limit of 1 ticket per account to make it fair! Good luck!
This raffle will automatically end on 2021-07-16 00:00:00.


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Art and Coding Bug Fixes


* Decors on Dorsal Fur pride leader portraits should no longer be flipped
* Fixed a duplicate of "Celadon" that replaced "Tessera" genetics, and thus prohibited any "Dunt" eyes to appear
* Lion Pride Veiled Wraps [Light Blue and Pink] should now display on all lions
* Previously, the Item Catalogue would not search all locations that an item was available in, this has been fixed
* Searching for main males wouldn't sort by level properly, this has been fixed


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Regarding the July Event


Hello, Lioden!

We're just writing this to extend a hand from the devs to the players, and touch base with you all on some of the feedback and comments we've been receiving over the past couple of days.

Retiring the Event


As we mentioned in previous news posts (July 2020, June 2021, and July 2021), the original July event would be retiring this year. We know that July was a very content rich event with lots of things to do. We know that the theme overall is popular, too. We know that by comparison, what launched this month seems less than and that can be a shock. However, all of our events started off launching on a smaller scale and grew over time. This time is no different, but we understand it can be disappointing now that the majority of events have had several years of fleshing out. We really hope you'll be patient with us and be excited to watch it grow.

Because of several years of content additions, in the end the event became messy and disjointed, and we felt it required a complete overhaul. Additionally, we know that the storyline left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths, and as explained, we felt it best to leave these characters behind and move on with new characters. We know that originally it was planned for Tefnut to have a mini backstory, but over time we as devs felt the storyline needed to be put to rest, and so that didn't happen.

We were surprised to see players upset about the removal of the storyline when we had explained it would be retiring, and so few players voiced their upset at this before.

Launching the New Event


Tefnut's memories, in hindsight, shouldn't have launched until the 8th and we apologise for that. Gathering MS which could then be spent there sent the wrong message when the new explore requires the shards to have steps. The apps originally launched in SB prices. After concern started being voiced by players about how cheap they were and the risk it would ruin the market, the prices got upped. This then caused more upset with other players, and the prices were changed to MS. This, then, caused upset again, and it became obvious that all of these choices were wrong. We then moved to remove the apps entirely from the shop and are still considering what to do, but we can promise that the apps will not return for a MS price, and more likely to be reverted to either SB, AC, or the option for both.

The new MS output is intentional because the event has changed. However, we listened to you all and gave an increase so you'd be able to get more steps in celestial explore.

Back to the celestial explore. We've seen comments voiced that it's too similar to the lunar event on Wolvden and that's upsetting, but we think considering it's an explore system, it is impossible not to see similarities between our other games and events. We will however consider the feedback for this, and look to see if we can do anything about this.

With regards to the enemies - they have more 'special' components than regular enemies, such as some of them having soft skin, some having tough, some being biters or stranglers, etc etc, but their overall 'power' is still lower than most enemies. In fact, it's lower than fighting regular lions in explore, though it likely feels different because they have more components and you have to work out what their strengths and weaknesses are. Additionally, we actually lowered this again after your feedback. Success rates were pretty good in testing as well, even with low stat kings.

To Sum Up


We hope you guys will agree that whilst we might not get everything right to begin with, we have a good track record of doing what we can to make it right. Any time event tiers have been too high or seeming unfair, we have moved to change them or lower them for better balance. We don't do things just to upset players - what would the point of that be? We're trying our best, and sometimes we don't always get it right first time, but we endeavour to make sure we do what we can to *put* it right.

We'd just like to formally apologise for all the ups and downs over the past few days. There have been a lot of quick fire changes. A lot of upset forum posts, news comments and chat posts. We don't anticipate to make any further changes this year beyond one or two more tweaks and hope that things will settle, but we're taking everything on board for next year.

Thank you for your patience, and we appreciate the valuable feedback you have given.

* We have adjusted "empty" explore encounters in Celestial Explore to now reward between 5-10 Meteorite Shards or 1 Axion Core at random.

Feedback and Surveys


In light of recent events, we have chosen to be more strict in our enforcement of attacks on our staff team. The attacks on our staff team and comments directed at them have been unacceptable, cruel, and without constructive criticism. These attacks not only harm our staff team, but our players as well—we have received feedback that players have been afraid to give their opinions in the chat room and on the forums due to the fear of being turned on by their fellow players with these same attacks. Due in part to this, we have found it necessary to follow with the enforcement of limiting attacks on our staff team. These are not new rules, these are existing rules that are currently enforced within the Code of Conduct.

To offset this, we will also be introducing greater chances of feedback so that every voice can be heard. Today, we are introducing a new way for you to give us your feedback - anonymous surveys. These surveys are here to provide an equal opportunity for players to provide feedback, and allow all voices a chance to contribute to the game's growth. They will offer a safe way for everyone to be heard, and will be everyone's first and best place to supply their thoughts in a constructive way without fear of being criticised.

We have created a survey to receive feedback from everyone regarding July's event update, and the link can be found here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeL-aPtccdpLklsQ0C-V2oHbcBUrhy5spza1CT_Ga65Aarvmw/viewform


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Raffle Lioness


Congrats Karina (#212267)! You have won last week's Ebony lady, woo!
A new Madagascar lady with Clay Indri (NEW!), Vitiligo 8, and the thirteenth Shores of Burundi background is up for impressing in the Special Lioness area linked here!

Marking Note: Lilac Crackle, Noctis Indri, and Noctis Panther are now possible to apply via RMAs/Total Shuffle!

Poll Results - Thanks for your votes! August's new stud base will be named "Bandit".

There is no new poll this week, in light of the survey. We'd like the focus to be on the survey if possible.


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Next Development Update: August 13th!


No Friday goofy doodle comic this week, sorry!



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Sand✧Tiger (#19721)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 15:53:38
I like the new event. Sorry you are taking so much heat about it. I liked the old story line but I think I actually like this new event better. Less depressing. Especially since I have a star-themed king and I didn't like him having that much of a similarity to Apedemak!



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Also Perseflora (G2
TDL Harle) (#213947)


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Posted on
2021-07-09 15:55:06
Again, I don't think stating your opinion in a non-nasty way is "toxic" but I guess I'm not as sensitive as some of the staff or community. I think that when redoing an event and not sharing any of their plans, they knew to expect some pushback. The tone of this newspost is "sorry we got caught" and comes off as lackadaisical but I chose to overlook that, as I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they will listen to feedback and rectify their mistakes.



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Sam🏳️‍🌈 (#166919)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 15:55:08
No comic on my birthday *gasp*


Admin Response:
Aww, we're sorry about that. Happy birthday, though!


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PewterKat [G3
Deshret] (#189273)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 15:55:26
Oh I love the survey! I can give all my feedback to you guys! And I know you guys try to give us what we want frim the polls and such so I have no doubt you'll listen to the surveys.



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Cj 🌈 (#174601)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 16:04:05
I don't think a lot of people are getting it still, so just in case:

It's not the fact people are upset with their opinions "not being heard", even though opinions HAVE been listened to and have been validated. For everyone who wasn't around to hear it, the "toxic behavior" is calling the mods/Lioden team unnecessary things and targeting them. :| People have constantly made asses of themselves by calling names, wishing harm, etc. even to other players, and the Lioden Team. It's fucking awful behavior.

Again, they are people. People make mistakes. Their owning up to their mistakes, and working on it. The least we can do is to keep a supportive attitude and help them through this. They don't owe us anything, and people need to stop acting so entitled. They reworked this event to help people having past trauma to feel safer here on Lioden.



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FlameHeart (#233839)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 16:06:14
The new event is starting to grow on me, with the *very kind* devs making mechanics just a little more bearable.

I just wish there was a storyline I could bond with.



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Anoct (#137333)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 16:08:06
Thanks for the update, regardless of what ends up happening I'm still excited for the build on of lore next year!



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jupe (#218656)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 16:11:43
so just to confirm, apps will definitely not be for shards? I just wanna make sure before I use them for exploring djsnjsje



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Dante (#200112)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 16:12:37
I agree with Perseflora here. The tone of this news post feels dismissive, and the controversy itself is the result of no communication other than one teaser image made a year ago. Hopefully this survey actually results in something good for the community as a whole, not just the people who don’t have a problem with it.



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Arcana~
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7m (#69013)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 16:14:18
Thanks for all the work!! I love the event so far ngl 💕



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Raditz (#223198)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 16:15:55
I wasn't here for the old July event, but I read everything about it in the wiki and tbh I think the new event is a lot cooler and has loads of potential for growth. I don't frequent the forums or the chat but people getting really upset over this (when they've been warned repeatedly that this would be happening) absolutely boggles my mind.

Anyway, from my time here and Wolvden, it seems to me that the staff is a pretty good lot doing their best to make fun games and people really should be more patient and understanding of that. Of course it's fine for people to dislike changes, but they can and should voice their opinions respectfully tbh.



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Kaliyana (#11505)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 16:25:48
@Also Perseflora; I'm still confused as to how exactly grinding event currency or SB is excluding players who don't purchase GB? Like I'm not trying to be hostile here, or say that you can't have an opinion, I'm just genuinely confused and trying to understand your point of view.

I'm a player who is not able to purchase GB until Black Friday sales (and I save up money during the year to be able to even buy it then) but there are several easy ways to make SB. Selling food (both to the monkey and to other users), selling toys, selling the apps/decor you get from each event just to name a few. None of those options require me to pay any amount of real life money. This game is entirely playable without spending a single cent of real life money, and having applicators that are purchasable from the stuff you already get freely doesn't seem like it's excluding the non-paying players at all to me. I'm just trying to understand what you mean.



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3 momma boys (#221238)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 16:26:33
Nee update yay!



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DotGov | g3 ivory
uneven MR (#228192)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 16:27:22
YES!! Thank you for listening to responses to the issues with the event



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🗡 Maggie Greene
[Dinar] (#161026)

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Posted on
2021-07-09 16:27:44
Some people on this website are so entitled I swear

Lioden is a FREE game. Yes you can pay for GB which costs money but at its core all the mechanics are free. The artists and coders work tirelessly to give us new decors, bases, eyes, events, patch bugs and EVEN MORE stuff.

We were warned well in advance that last year's Celestial event would be the last time that storyline was run. People had issues with it, the team apologised and as a result they've coded + done the art for an entirely new event so people who were uncomfortable with the apedemak/apollyon storyline could partake in the event. The bases we all know and love are still going to be available, yes in the beggining it wasn't perfect but thats to be expected and they've fixed it in record time.

Once again, this is a free game at its core. I love this community but seriously some people take for granted the immense amount of work it takes to produce such gorgeous artwork consistently at the calibre the lioden artists do.



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