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Posted by | Lion Population Control - Themed Mini Event |
Espenfalls ✧ G1 12/15bo Nomad (#127995) Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-01 12:52:17 |
Please read my entire post before casting judgements! I want Lioden to last a long time, this may just help it do that |
Espenfalls ✧ G1 12/15bo Nomad (#127995) Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-01 12:54:47 |
To address some common themes I've seen with comments on here and on other threads-- Why just giving SB doesn't/wouldn't work I see a lot of mentions in my thread and many others "Why not just offer SB? I like SB. " There are 2 things specifically that would be affected by that- 1. An influx of SB being generated into the game. ESPECIALLY if they priced lions higher than standard fodder prices, it would create an influx of SB that could devalue it. When one player buys fodder from another player for SB, no new currency is generated. By having something year round that gives SB directly from the site from lions it could make it so SB becomes less and less valuable (which may be good for GB, but would be bad for SB in general.) 2. Why would people give more lions up for sb to the site when they could do the same thing.. selling to someone? As much as SB would be great, it WOULDN'T solve the issue of lion overpopulation on site. If you only get 10sb per lion sold to site, you'd still only give up the lions that aren't worth very much anyway. My suggestion promotes giving away more expensive lions for similarly expensive rewards- Just SB won't cut it if we want to see a change in the economy! 1 player likes this post! Like? Edited on 03/03/24 @ 20:16:26 by Espenfalls ✧ 9x Seal DR 1.9k (#127995) |
OllieFishh (#179334)
Fetish View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-01 13:14:20 |
People would just mass breed lions to give away. I'd see people, like the hardcore grinders, stocking up on lions throughout the year and sending them off to a side account to be frozen until the event comes to then mass "trade in" those lions, get the items, and then upsell them again. The likelihood of people just mass claiming NCLS and trading them in is also what would happen, and would probably make up 90% of the submissions. While a good idea on the surface I think it would become a February sort of event. What I mean by "February type of event" is having people prepare the entire year in advance by collecting energy items and storing them away for the next year, in this case stocking up on lions. The valuable event items, breeding items in Februarys case, drastically drop in price and slowly rise as the event gets further and further behind us. Or, alternatively, it could possibly make the lions worth TOO much. Overpricing is a very common thing during high demand events. Tigons prices are being increased, DUs, ect. during this time. Even not so great, or in demand items, rise in price during the event. You mean well and it's a great idea on the surface until you realize people would just cheat the event instead of playing it how it's intended to be played. 0 players like this post! Like? Edited on 01/03/24 @ 13:17:05 by OllieFishh (#179334) |
🥓baconbitz🥓 (#255774)
Asshole View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-01 13:14:25 |
YUHHHH PLEASE ID LOVE THIS SM, genuinely mutation selling is so ass rn. i killed over 30 g4 muties two months ago (ferus included!) because selling them genuinely wasnt worth my time. it sucks bc g4 feruses used to sell for upwards of 20gb!! now you’re lucky if ya get 5 3 players like this post! Like? |
Espenfalls ✧ G1 12/15bo Nomad (#127995) Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-01 13:22:44 |
Olliefishh- As much as lions would be mass bred, it would still be SOMETHING that rewards players to mass deposit lions. Even if people did mass breed lions, at least it's not mass breeding lions to flood TC with more unwanted fodder that people undercut everyone else for the chance for a sale. Also the chances of lions becoming overpriced is way lower than them being underpriced 90% of the time nowadays. Even if 90% of the submissions are ncls, that's why common based 2 marking lions I set at 2 points per. If the cheapest item costed 1000 points, that's still HUNDREDS of lions off the TC. Not everyone is a hard core player with 1000 den spaces. Most of the submissions will be casual players wanting the items. It still creates a vacuum that will boost the economy. It's better than Lioden doing nothing at all and just letting more and more lions pile up in the tree and in the TC. There's too many and there needs to be a way to fix it. 6 players like this post! Like? Edited on 01/03/24 @ 13:24:32 by Espenfalls ✧ 9x Seal DR 1.9k (#127995) |
Tharkenta (#160101)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-01 13:26:46 |
Maybe the criteria could be similar to the murder stone? 'Cubs and nursing lionesses cannot be sacrificed. If cubs were chased, she will still be classified as nursing. Lions must not be hunting, stuck in a trade (or trade offer), be on a NCL cooldown, be custom, broodmothers, protected by a broodmother, frozen, secured, patrolling, in raffles or dead.' -Wiki + ontop of that no heritageless lions to keep players from mass claiming ncls? 11 players like this post! Like? |
OllieFishh (#179334)
Fetish View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-01 13:29:15 |
I think that would solve a lot of the issues I addressed in my original comment. It makes this a lot more plausible. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Espenfalls ✧ G1 12/15bo Nomad (#127995) Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-01 13:30:46 |
I was thinking of excluding ncls entirely, but that means they'll just get chased and flood the chased lioness pool.with potatoes too. However that is a very valid way of removing the "abusing the event instead of using it as intended" issue. Keeping it the same rules as the murder stone would be good also, but I definitely want cubs to be able to be sacrificed so Tree isn't always packed with potatoes. 2 players like this post! Like? |
Tharkenta (#160101)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-01 13:45:50 |
Maybe we could be able to yeet them as soon as they are weaned (5 months), and another thing that has come to my mind is that a daily limit might encourage people to sacrifice more valuable lions instead of mass-bred potatoes. 4 players like this post! Like? Edited on 01/03/24 @ 13:48:15 by Tharkenta [20x Ros] (#160101) |
Espenfalls ✧ G1 12/15bo Nomad (#127995) Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-01 13:51:05 |
Oooo, that actually is a great idea. Mind if I add it to the main post? 0 players like this post! Like? |
Tharkenta (#160101)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-01 13:51:45 |
Rosey (#221315)
Lone Wanderer View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-01 19:32:02 |
Some ideas I can agree with but most I can't, I moves to lioden FROM wolveden bc of many of the features and literally not being able to feed, treat, support, etc only 5 wolves. And others have stated there are ways around all of this. The July event I use to get rid of ncls that are game generated, fodder lions,etc..... 0 players like this post! Like? |
Espenfalls ✧ G1 12/15bo Nomad (#127995) Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-01 19:48:27 |
Hello! I see there may be some confusion with my suggestion. My suggestion would not affect users who don't want to participate, as noted by by section about "Why would I be interested in this if I don't want to give lions away" While there may be ways around it, my intention was and still isn't to FORCE players into giving away lions. It's merely a way to promote users to choose to get rid of lions instead of flooding TC with lions heavily underpriced because there is so many lions and so little people who want them. This suggestion would allow someone to keep as many lions as they personally want to, while also giving an outlet to those who want to get rid of their lions and get rewarded for doing so without having to underpriced themselves. This has nothing to do with Wolvden features, as I expressly mentioned I do not like Wolvdens feature. This suggestion is really just a way to hopefully boost the economy by allowing the community to CHOOSE to get rid of excess lions YEAR ROUND or at least more frequently than 1 month in July. My suggestion also offers far better rewards for getting rid of lions (exclusive breeding items, Mutation items ect) while the July stone only offers XP and maybe some SB occasionally. This is very different and formulated to get people to WANT to give their lions away for an event currency. 1 player likes this post! Like? Edited on 01/03/24 @ 19:51:35 by Espenfalls ✧ 9x Seal DR 1.9k (#127995) |
Talmoi (#16689)
Heartless View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-01 20:09:58 |
Some way to make it random would possibly help? I know I would mass breed if I could/needed to. In July I claim and sacrifice the 44 lions I need each day. Depending on the event length, it could ask for different criteria every few hours or so. Like an easier gorilla quest. It could request lions with a certain age or gender, certain number of markings, certain base genetics etc so people can’t just stock up and donate what they have already. People will always find a way but it might slow them down a little… maybe We need a lion sink of some sort. 5 players like this post! Like? |
Espenfalls ✧ G1 12/15bo Nomad (#127995) Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-01 20:15:27 |
I actually was going to include an hourly changing criteria, but I want the most people to be getting rid of lions as possible. However.. I may add a part that perhaps every hour if a criteria is met you get double points, and the less traits met could even decrease points. This suggestion is pretty tricky to balance perfectly, but anything- ANY better lion sink where it isn't just "if you chase the lion we give you 10sb" would be great. (The reason sb and other small rewards don't/wouldn't work IMO is because people can go like "well I could probably just get that much sb if I sold it as fodder") 2 players like this post! Like? Edited on 01/03/24 @ 20:16:24 by Espenfalls ✧ 9x Seal DR 1.9k (#127995) |
Rosey (#221315)
Lone Wanderer View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-01 20:19:45 |
I'd be ok with even 10 sb as most fodder I end up actually selling is for 5 sb and for the gorilla's anyway, or even crafting material for what ever month is going on and if there's none specifically for that month then just random crafting items 0 players like this post! Like? |