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| Posted by | Give our Kings a Queen |
 Garet (#19860) King of the Jungle View Forum Posts  Posted on 2013-11-24 04:29:46 |
Since we do have one dominant male, why not have one dominant female as well? Asiatic lions have female-run prides, and within African prides, there are dominant females. It'd still be realistic, even moreso than what we have now. I've got a few ideas that might make her useful, rather than 'just a pretty lioness we can't chase'; Our Queen would be locked to our accounts and be given her own slot. The Queen wouldn't take up a territory slot, and like our Kings, we could only have one Queen per pride. It should cost the same to retire her as it would a King, and she would not run off if too hungry or bored. Yes, you will have to play with and feed your Queen. Like Kings, we would be able to chose an heir for her when retiring or when she comes of age. We would be able to chose to keep her looks or use those of the new Queen. Thus, we could customize her or her heir and keep that look for as long as we want to. Unlike other females, the Queen wouldn't go hunting. She would have a different way of gaining stats. The Queen would be in charge of domestic-related issues. Teaching cubs /adolescents to hunt, fending off males/females at our borders, the likes. Each hour, we could chose to have her perform one of these duties and gain stats/exp. The former would also have a small chance of giving cubs stats, along with a slightly higher chance of giving the Queen stats. The Queen would only be able to take up to five cubs/adolescents under her wing at a time. She would be able to breed as well, but I think a cub with a Queen should get slightly higher stats. Nothing insane like +50 in all stats, but something small, like +1-5 across the boards. Edit: Like people have mentioned, this should be optional, like with submales. That way people wouldn't have to necessarily get one if they don't want one. |
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Rhaenys (#19756)
Champion View Forum Posts Posted on 2013-11-28 05:27:43 |
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Garet (#19860)
King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2013-11-28 05:34:14 |
She would still gain stats, though. .n. By working with the cubs, she'd get the same benefits, only without bringing in food like whatever five lionesses you send off to hunt.  0 players like this post! Like? |
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Rhaenys (#19756)
Champion View Forum Posts Posted on 2013-11-28 05:45:41 |
It's not about getting stats, it's that the queen would be the best lioness in the pride, which to me means she'll be the best huntress. In the wild the lioness that can be considered dominant is usually the oldest and most experienced one and she's the leader during hunting. And lionesses take turns babysitting and teaching the cubs in a pride anyway, I don't see why it would be only the queen's responsibility. 0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 28/11/13 by Rhaenys [The 200-Reds!] (#19756) |
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Axel (#6627)
Pervert View Forum Posts Posted on 2013-11-28 05:52:36 |
If you send submales out patrolling, you gain items/food that are statboosters, raise a stronger male for your pride and make money by selling whatever he finds that you don't. Raising a stronger male still needs work before you can savor the fruit of your work. The submale doesnt have a direct impact upon the pride itself. It has maybe a chance to find food and toys as well which can be fed to the pride or sold for SB, but please note that food and SB is very easy to get. They are cheap and mean less in the game. Stats, not so much. his is why they are valued more. Thus you cannot compare the two together. Food and SB =/= Stats That's equal to or less than the chance of them getting a stat from all foods save for turtles. Correction, please note: You can feed your lions until they are full only -depending on their hunger, they can be fed 1-2 times a day. Speaking of cubs and adols only. Your idea is to give the Queen the ability to play with the cubs and adolescents hourly. Thus having the 5-10% chance for stats for cubs every hour. Now that is a great advantage. See it like this: It is like being able to feed your lions every hour. I mean cubs and adolescents are pretty much just taking up space doing nothing. They will be..... your lions when they grow up? You cant honestly expect them to do great tasks while they are learning and growing up. When they are this young, rarely are they any use to the pride naturally. However, the pride knows to take care of them because one day they will be hunters alongside them. Females will fight male lions that she sees as a threat to her cubs. Male lions are strong and extremely determined when travelling. They are maybe underfed slightly, however their strength is still greater than that of a female lion. Why do you think young lions are able to overthrow pride leaders? Are they underfed? Are they weak? Nah. If they were weaker than a female..... pride leaders would never be switched only when they die. Aaaand just a note: There is no indication in the game that the submale patrols to keep out intruders. He only finds food and items. And if he does meet male lions, he is still too young and inexperienced to take them on. 0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 28/11/13 by Axel (#6627) |
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Garet (#19860)
King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2013-11-28 15:03:51 |
It's not that huge an advantage. I'm sure the staff would put a cap on this, and honestly? Not a lot of people spend all that much time on the site. Nor should she be able to take out newborns/all the cubs in your pride. I'd say five months would be the best time to start and give her a max of three cubs to bring with her. But honestly? Let's say that someone somehow gets to use up all ten of her cub training slots in this manner. With the odds against you like that, the best you could hope with is one to two stats per day, and even then, you might not get lucky and just get skill. If you keep taking each cub out daily until they're 1 year and 11 months old and are lucky to get an average of 1 stat per day, that's still not a lot. That comes up to about 14 stats, which is rather negligible at best. I know I've hit a dry spot with food. Even turtles haven't given me any stats in about a week to any of the lions that need the stat boost. And with the chance of getting stats equal to or below that of food, it wouldn't be that big of a deal. Also, male lions don't always win. Not every single male out there is an experienced male. They have to start out somewhere. And she doesn't even have to technically beat him, just alert the pride/her male or chase him off. And if we technically want to get true to what lions do in the wild, our kings should be vanquished or killed whenever they lose a fight to a different male instead of slinking off. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Roka~Insane~(Wolfsea ) (#14648) Demonic View Forum Posts Posted on 2013-11-29 05:13:10 |
I don't simply because like my lion I change queens every other day based on who does a good job or how she looks. I'm fickle and if I have to spend gb to retire my queen I'll be broke forever.... so no 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Mayor Of Space (#23015)
Amazing View Forum Posts Posted on 2013-12-23 15:14:25 |
Support with all my heart. This is the best suggestion I've ever read! 0 players like this post! Like? |
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OrenOtter [Headbangin' Hippie] (#18629) Ill-Natured View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-07-31 07:41:51 |
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Prophet View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-07-31 12:28:08 |
I clicked support but here are some features I'd like: 1. You choose who is Queen. 2. She can hunt, but have less hunting slots than the other lionesses. 3. You don't have to retire your Queen to change who it is. To stop people from making several lionesses Queen just for stats, you'd have 3 slots every two months or so. So, if you made one lioness your Queen, then got another you liked better, you could change her. WITHOUT the freedom of continuously changing her. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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King Syringa (#7346)
Vicious View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-07-31 16:20:59 |
I kinda have an issue with this...My soon to be King on my other Pride will have two Queens because I cannot deiced between the two and all three are the same age. So why not two? If it could be two I would fully support this! It would make it a lot easier,and maybe perks with the Queens instead just having them sit there looking pretty? Like Depending on the fertility of the ladies you get a certain amount of cubs and all that. (I can go into more detail if needed). And instead of the stats maybe being close to the parents having the stats ADD together to get the stats. That way with some of the other ideas I have seen the stats and levels of the lions will do much better. This way it kinds makes stats needed,though at the time it kinda kills them price wise cause then everyone would be able t to have good stat lions. Also maybe studding the queens like the kings? Having their cool off/days till heat shorter than the rest and having their in heat days longer? 0 players like this post! Like? |
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King Syringa (#7346)
Vicious View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-07-31 16:29:01 |
Also with the Queen so they stay with the King till he is free to retire they should stay the same age. Like if they are Adols or small cubs they become 3 years of age as well. I normally don't send my "Queens" to hunt cause I have better lionesses to do that,but that is me. There are several other things that I would like to see coming from this,but from others I am hesitant to really put too much in 0 players like this post! Like? |
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King Syringa (#7346)
Vicious View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-07-31 16:51:55 |
Thinking even more on it now...why not have the Queen have the same action and stuff other than battles as the King? Like have them have their own little map to explore and level up in. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Seranner (#75113)
Aztec Knight View Forum Posts Posted on 2015-10-31 06:59:25 |
Actually, lions only have lead males. The females are used simply for breeding. Although, it's true they have more than one king. Unless you count them as being Alpha Female fr breeding with the king, it's temporary (Until the cubs grow up) and they have no authority. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Arkinhallow (#36091)
King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2015-11-09 22:39:38 |
Okay, this is gonna be a I have problems help > General - Females never lead a pride in anything but an extraordinary case. - Alpha wolves are indeed a myth based on poorly conducted research. > Dominance - Females have no dominance system. - Males have a higher status than females and have dominance hierarchies with other males. - The article on Ashanti and Phyre: a) defines dominance differently to how you are suggesting b) does not examine other factors influencing dominance and takes social interaction to be the only indication of dominance in the pride c) gives no evidence that other factors are not influencing dominance and that social interaction is the only influencer d) is about a pride that was only semi-wild and therefore could not always be generalised to wild lions in terms of social structure e) is managed by ALERT, who state on their website explicitly that lionesses don't have a hierarchy > Realism - Lioden is not realistic, basically. - Whilst it is fine to say the game should be as realistic as possible for the sake of enjoyment, arguing that unrealistic features should not be brought in because the game is 'realistic' or supposed to be realistic is kind of stupid. > Gameplay and Suggestions * 0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 10/11/15 @ 06:08:45 by Cairn (#36091) |
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Arkinhallow (#36091)
King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2015-11-09 22:40:16 |
General Stuff "Usually, it's a coalition of 1-3 males in charge of a pride, or sometimes even a female that is in charge." True, generally there are two males leading a pride and this can vary to three. However, aside from a few cases of completely female prides, no female is ever in charge. The female prides, which existed in the same area, likely were created because there were not enough males to lead them. A few males were known to move between these prides to breed, but did not take leadership. This is, however, an exceptional case, and would never occur in any normal pride. *Will add sources soon* "Alpha wolves- male or female- are a myth." True. Schenkel’s experiments were badly set up, resulting in evidence that was largely false for wild wolves. See more here. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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