-LOCKED - Hunting Stuffs - Poll Time!
Posted on 2014-12-15 06:33:03
Hello lions!

We've listened to your feedback, suggestions and comments and have decided to give you guys a poll regarding the hunting feature to see what you feel is best, and to gauge more public opinion and where it's sitting.

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There are four options that are available on the poll, and I will explain each of them:

Option 1 - Revert back to 1 GB to skip hunts, and additional hunts go back to normal.
Basically we return to how it was before the SB skip was switched. Skipping was a luxury.

Option 2 - Keep the new system. Pay SB to skip hunts still, but no additional hunts.
Everyone has the same playing field, and it's effectively capped.

Option 3 - Change the system to have skipping incur a cost of 1000SB OR 1 GB (whichever currency you'd prefer to use), with each skip causing the price to increase in tiers. The proposed is increasing the SB cost by 100SB at a time, so the first skip would cost 1000SB, second would be 1100SB, 1200SB, and so on and so forth. Additional hunts would return as they were before - 10 SB per hunt.

Option 4 - The same as option 3, except also tier up the cost of additional hunts. First additional hunt costing 100SB, increasing in 10SB increments. Second 110SB, then 120sb, etc etc.

You can vote on the polls page - click here for a direct link there.

Please keep in mind that Lioden is really dear to us and we care about all of you on here! We listen to each and every one of you but have to make decisions to try to balance the game where we can. We don't want to remove competition and we also don't want to make things completely unfair, either, so it's all about finding a nice middle.

Thanks for sticking with us guys!

Pls don't poop on me for this. ;0;



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FluffyRaven (#38986)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 12:24:25
Option 2



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Enitan [HM] (#18630)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 12:54:09
Again, if people would explain WHY, that would be fantastic.

Just yelling "TWO" doesn't really help.



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Abbey 🎁 (#1)

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2014-12-15 12:57:13
@Sphinx - If people don't feel like explaining, then that's their prerogative. We're not trying to force members to give us a full, detailed reason about why they'd prefer a particular option. They're welcome to if they want, but it's not an obligation :)



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Foxangel (#40850)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 13:06:47
I like 1 the most. I think it is best.



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Mothdog (#37599)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 13:38:50
Option 2 or 4.
It's just insane to have the hunting skip be 1gb, that's as much as changing the sex of a cub. Like, literally what? How tf does that come anywhere close to being the same in value as a cub sex changer? Hm... wait half an hour for one skill point, or spend a gb on it, and skip changing that cub's sex you wanted to.

100sb is just... Way more do-able, and sensable, it fits the value of hunting, and is just expensive enough to still make you think about it.

Who the hell even used the old system anyway, like really? I don't think an average player even thought about using it.



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Ravynhunter (#49082)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 13:39:55
@Alrewolf Thank you for the clarification. I do care a lot about the game even though I am new and haven't been able to donate as yet. Though I would argue that even non-paying players should be listened to. I have played quite a few free games like this, one of which no longer exists, and I can say that a BIG downfall I have seen for ALL free games I have played was paying players getting more say and listened to than non-paying players. Yes I DO know that paying players are what keeps free games available and open to the public. HOWEVER, without the non-paying players this game wouldn't BE a free to play game. It would be a game where in order to play at all you would have to pay. And as far as I have come to understand the admin have wanted to keep this game available as a free to play game. EVERYONE should have a say because it DOES effect EVERYONE. Yes it effects some, the paying players, more than others, the ones who either can't afford to pay or don't want to, but it still effects everyone who plays the game, hence the admin giving everyone a chance to have an opinion. I think the main reason the ones who are choosing #2 aren't saying why is because they don't want to be bullied or hassled about the personal choice on how they want to play the game. It IS just a game after all, a very well done game and very fun to play, but a game nonetheless.



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Bilby [G1
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Posted on
2014-12-15 13:54:49
I don't think that donating should give you more say than another, tbh ^^"
(Otherwise those who are arguing for a return to the 100SB skips with the hunt refills would be the only ones listened to e.e)

I think the length of time you've played and the amount of time you spend online each day should be taken into account though. You've had more experience with the game, and you invest more time into it. Those who hope online for half and hour and poke their lions a bit then fall off again have a less thorough understanding of the game mechanics than those you invest 5+ hours a day to it.

I do think there is a point to asking for reasoning /why/ people are voting as they are. The mods need to make a decision about the future of the site, and they need info and feedback from people, rather than just numbers. They need to know if people are voting as they are because they believe it will be better for the site and the game economy in the long term, or if they're solely voting #2 because it lets them get in ten hunts a day and a few extra stats + food for half an hour's effort? :/
So yes, I think asking people to provide reasoning is legitimate, but we shouldn't bully them into giving it. But I must say that the /lack/ of reasons for voting #2 is pretty damning in my books :/



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Abbey 🎁 (#1)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 14:02:30
Of course, we absolutely welcome feedback from members - that's what this entire news post is about. But they shouldn't feel obligated to elaborate on their decision.



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Alrewolf (#51084)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 14:21:10
Note to self: learn how to type. //lays down

I didn't mean to imply DONATING should be the deciding factor between who gets a say - but that casual players who come on for 5 minutes are going to have a different opinion and that the admins should definitely take that into account, which it seems like they're going to.

"Donating" is just something that generally comes from more serious players than casual players.



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Alli (#38193)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 14:51:05
I honestly have no idea what 'stats" even do.



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Bilby [pm on #22185] (#22017)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 15:01:40
Alre - not necessarily. Many high level and high input players prefer to feel that they've entirely earned their stuff through effort, rather than buying it, and don't buy GB for the site. They may not be able to afford to, time-rich but money-poor. My experience with games with time skips, paid currency and p2w factors is that it's casual gamers who still want to excel who will drop more money on them - time-poor but money-rich. They want to see their name in the leaderboards, and are fine with dropping RL money to achieve that. I kind of liked that lioden doesn't/didn't allow for that, although I do donate a decent amount. I generally spend it on markings and customisation for heirs though, rather than stat boosts and time skips like IB feathers, aging stones and zebra hearts ^^"

Alli - atm, stats affect your main lion's ability when fighting NPCs, skill has an effect in PvP, and people just like 'em. Same way that other people like markings and bases, even though they don't do anything either. Very little actually -does- anything on this game as it stands, but uses are in the works for stats from what we've been told, so many people want to have a decent stat headstart before that happens, rather than start building up stats after a use is added, if that makes sense? ^^



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Edited on 15/12/14 by The Lesser Bilby .:Beastie:. (#22017)

Eliora's Side (#36993)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 15:29:43
honestly #2 seem reasonable and fair to me. For those who cant afford the GB or their items, its nice to know that SB can be used for something at least. Trying to get GB, when you technically cant really afford to buy your own, can be a real hassle XD. And i agree with the post above by EquineFire.

Me personally, I never used the old system. Why? i couldnt afford to. Am I complaining? lol no way :) Of the choices, 2 set an even and fair playing field for everyone. It gives the little guys a chance to be on even grounds with the big dawgs,even if it's just in a small way lol It seems as if you guys are trying to give SB more value and i personally appreciate that lol

Also, i love the pic lol



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Edited on 15/12/14 by Eliora's Nursery -(CBP) (#36993)

Grin (#49587)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 15:31:38
1 or 3



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Seiden πŸ‘‘ (#31516)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 16:17:12
I was so happy you may change it back. And then I see the poll result. And I just don't get it. Why, people, why?!



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Mirmil (#43278)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 16:39:59
Now is to easy. Old system (1) was good. I don't know why you change it :(



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