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Timo (#53555) Amazing View Forum Posts Posted on 2015-03-26 09:17:21 |
Be prepared to notice major changes in this thread! It is going under massive re-evaluation and will be edited and changed during this period!Okay, I was letting my lionesses out to hunt and I placed one in a village and thought: 'Hey, wouldn't it be cool if they could get sick or hurt?' and that's what this thread is about! I've done my research and have found diseases that lions can get in the wild, as well as injuries. With the disease and injuries comes death. Now, before the major edit, there were varying degrees of death depending on the disease or injury. Like last time, your main lion CANT die no matter how bad of a condition he's in. Lionesses, sub males and cubs on the other hand.... Can die, be prevented from doing certain tasks and such. I've decided that no matter the injury, there is up to a 13% chance of a lioness/cub/sub dying if the wound is severe. (the reason being that I wanted it to be 25, then 10, then five. I averaged them and got 13.) There are many injuries that a lion/cub/lioness can get and possibly die from. But even though they can die, it's only if you ignore their wounds for long enough and don't treat them properly. Remember that the higher stats your sub/cub/lioness has, the lower chance they have of getting injured in the first place! After much debate on the matter of this thread being about a game mode or not, I have decided that no, this wouldn't be a game mode. Instead, I have decided that this would be the full of Lioden. However, before you cuss me out or something, let me explain! This had been modified. (December 29, 2016 if you're wondering) Now, this would be a much more forgiving and less frightening version of the previous thread. Less stats are needed for a lion to thrive successfully and injuries will be much easier to treat. Not only that, herbs are easier to find. Injuries also have a percentage of chance now. There are more common injuries, and less common. That will be explained below. The Stat Immunity ScaleCubs: With NO training (starting at 5 months old) |
Hex (#41384)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-12-28 02:38:18 |
This entire idea seems entirely unnecessary. There's no way that the Admins would make it optional because the vast majority of people would not use it, therefore it would be time wasted for the coders when they could be working on something that's actually useful to do with their time. If it were implemented, it would be a mandatory thing for everyone, and who wold be leaving the game? The people who actually spend money on it, because that money it used for lions that could die. There wouldn't be a point to them spending their real life money on a site when what they're buying might die. Which means the site would be losing an incredible amount of money. So all in all, this idea is very counter productive and a huge waste for the Admins to introduce due to the fact that they'd simply be losing money by implementing it. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Kenzii[G3 Clean Ferus] (#49358) Prince of Terror View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-12-28 02:44:19 |
I've not supported ages ago but Ashanti you are becoming quite condescending and rude. Users spend gb on more than just their king and yes I would be pretty damn pissed if I had to spend more gb just to keep my lionesses alive. Not everyone breeds for stats, not everyone uses broodmothers. 0 players like this post! Like? Edited on 28/12/16 @ 09:45:05 by Kitty Claws #GayUpMain2k16 (#49358) |
Timo (#53555)
Amazing View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-12-28 05:15:39 |
@GayUpMain2k16 Perhaps you think I'm being rude, but I don't think so. I'm being honest. Most people spend money getting their lions to look nice. Sometimes it's on breeding items and décor, but not even close to as much as for marks. I know not everyone breeds for stats, that's obvious because there are a lot of breeding projects dedicated to getting cute lions. Breeding for stats isn't as hard as people think it is. In fact, it's probably easier than breeding for marks and it is less expensive too. And is it critical to spend money to make your lions nice? No. You choose to do that much. That was my entire point. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Kenzii[G3 Clean Ferus] (#49358) Prince of Terror View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-12-28 05:20:32 |
Trust me, its not just me but ok. There's a way to be honest that doesn't result in a condescending tone. Yes it is a choice to pretty up ones lions, but, I don't think people should have to fork over game currency just to keep their lions alive or in good health. We already have cub mortality as well as nesting mortality. That's as close as I'm willing to get to "realistic" gameplay. Still not supporting. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Timo (#53555)
Amazing View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-12-28 05:29:57 |
Yeah, and? My point still stands. I don't care if you like the idea or not. We have different opinions and thoughts on how the game should work. If you don't like it, it's okay. I really don't care. A lot of people like this thread, and a lot of them don't. Opinions, notes, reviews and judgement calls do help this thread and idea move forward. 0 players like this post! Like? |
littleclod | 3x ros G3 ferus (#92938) Deathlord of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-12-28 10:56:51 |
mmm, no support, mostly for reasons stated by other users(which you seem to just brush off, at this point) if the cub is protected by a broodmother, the whole point is for it NOT to die. i don't particularly care if it depends on stats, they're protected and shouldn't die. also, do you mind telling me the names of the documentaries you watched where lions slept off venom? because I did a bit of research, and all I could find was that it was the honey badger, not a lion. 0 players like this post! Like? Edited on 28/12/16 @ 18:00:26 by littleclod#NotMyLucifer (#92938) |
Timo (#53555)
Amazing View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-12-28 11:31:35 |
littleclod | 3x ros G3 ferus (#92938) Deathlord of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-12-28 11:50:19 |
Thank you! I appreciate the response ^^ (also, im female, but its cool ) 0 players like this post! Like? |
Timo (#53555)
Amazing View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-12-29 03:37:45 |
Whoopsie xD sorry about that! Okay, so one of them was taken off YouTube because of copyright, but the other two should be on Netflix. I believe one of them was like: Lions vs. Hyenas Eternal enemies or something of that sort. And I can't remember what the other was called, but I can describe exactly what happened. I don't have Netflix anymore, so I don't know if they're still there or if they've been taken off. Okay, so in the documentary, a lioness went off to have her first litter of cubbins. She gave birth safely in a nice little thicket a couple miles away from her pride. She gave birth to two cubs and if I recall correctly, one was white. so the mother was taking care of her little cubs, occasionally leaving to hunt. Every couple of days she would move her babies so that predators wouldn't find them. But she moved her cubs to a really bad place one time. She Moved them into a really nice thicket... Right on top of a black mamba den. The snake at this point, was molting its skin so it was really close to being blind. The snake made itself known while mom was out hunting. When she returned, both of the cubs had died. She was trying to figure out what the crap had happened when she saw the snake. It was staring right at her and it looked like a staring contest at this point. Before mom could get away, she was bitten by the black mamba. She had to run away before she got bitten again. She got dizzy really quickly, the venom got right to work. For a week the venom was in her system. She slept a lot and the narrator said that it was one of the only things the lioness could do, but it also helped the venom to leave her system quickly. Geez, you should have seen that poor lioness. Every second that I saw her with that venom in her system looked like Hell on earth. I remember one part where the poor girl was stumbling around looking for water, ya' know 'cos the venom dehydrates the victim rapidly. She was drooling really bad and by the time she found the water, she could hardly stand she was so thirsty. So she didn't really sleep it off per say, she slept because she was bitten and it was pretty much her only option. 0 players like this post! Like? |
littleclod | 3x ros G3 ferus (#92938) Deathlord of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-12-29 08:45:02 |
Okay, I'll look it up. Did the lioness survive or did she die after that? 0 players like this post! Like? |
Orcinus [Starlit Floof] (#31718) Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-12-29 11:20:35 |
I supported this a while ago, but I'm changing my stance to unsupporting. It just seems excessive and unnecessary; it seems to only exist in order to kill off the pride one by one. I know you say mamba bites are "like a 1% chance" but every day LD players breed hundreds of 1% fertility lionesses. It's not impossible, that's the point, but it's not hard to be on the receiving end of that 1% chance. Hell, I'd have a smaller chance of impressing the special lioness than I would having a lion being bitten by a mamba. And what if I'd impressed the special lioness? She tends to have less than 50 stats or so... BANG! Sorry mate, she's dead. Move on. Same goes for breeding Leopons - they have vastly decreased stats over their brethren. Not every player breeds for stats. It's incredibly simple to breed for stats, but it's very time consuming and many players choose not to do this and that's fine; it's how they play the game. But this idea seems to be penalizing them for how they choose to play and seems overly unfair. New players are also going to struggle getting a toe into the system; Whole litters dying, lionesses getting hurt every day, their main male severely crippled by a plethora of illnesses. It seems too expensive for them to continually heal and care for their pride. Many newbies get stung badly when they can't manage to scrape enough food together and half their pride runs away, it's going to be even harder if their main hunters are rendered incapable of hunting, or worse - Dead. I know you say that you can just "switch modes", but I see no point to that. This just sounds like a completely different game that's being presented with a slight warrior cats spin to it and it's major my counterproductive. Lioden is what it is and that is a lion SIM. Not a survivalists guide to Africa. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Timo (#53555)
Amazing View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-12-29 13:09:09 |
@ LittleClod No, no the lioness survived. Barely, but she did. @Orcinus Yes, that's very true. For a few days, I have thought about lowering the scale to something a little more flexible. A scale that's much easier to breed or attain. You are very right in two ways: 1) the optional mode is pointless. After SnarkyUnicorn jumped on here, I've started to agree that the 'Survival mode' is kinda useless and no one would use it. I'm sitting on the fence for now. and 2) Breeding for stats is a pain. I feel like I'd be able to testify to that. Since the day I joined LioDen, I've been a stat breeder. It's been difficult to buy and breed high stat lions, a good example would be this: I recently bought a lovely young lioness and named her Rose. She was born with 750 stats. I bred her to a beautiful king and he had 2,500 stats. Her cubs ended up with less stats than their mother, only 400-500. So yes, I agree with you Orcinus. I do believe this thread needs a bit of updating like I did in 2015. Thank you for voicing your opinion! Your thoughts do matter! 0 players like this post! Like? |
Orcinus [Starlit Floof] (#31718) Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-12-29 20:33:05 |
@ Ashanti Hahaha, sorry if I was just reiterating what other people have said in your thread. It's just things that sprung to mind as I was reading. I do like the survival idea but after so long collecting the lions I like, want and need for projects and stuff I'd be too scared to login and rollover to work with them at all. I would love to revisit this thread after any updates you do! Thank you for taking the time to read through my comments ^w^ A thorough thought though? (<- English language x3) - When hunters reach Level 10 on Lioden, they can bring down the toughest prey. Any level over that is essentially unneeded. Perhaps make lvl 10+ lionesses completely immune to injuries and bad encounters due to their experience? Maybe if they're included in a hunting team it reduces the risk of the other hunters getting injured too? 0 players like this post! Like? |
Timo (#53555)
Amazing View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-12-30 04:40:02 |
That's actually a really good idea! I like it! I'll get it added in, and give you credit of course. ;D 0 players like this post! Like? |
💰Green1Chaos (#32339)
Lone Wanderer View Forum Posts Posted on 2016-12-30 04:43:02 |
At first, I thought this would be a good idea...But after sometime and having been on here for at least 2 years, the injury system seems to be an unneeded system. Lots of people are breeding for stats going into 1k+ these days and some precious to people. Their are scars that can be applied, but as for losing even a cub that some may raise to be future kings, it's become an unnecessary system. 0 players like this post! Like? |