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While I do think the event apps should remain somewhat random, it definitely needs to change how it's weighted. I basically didn't keep track of how many Glacial Specials I had to buy after 10, but they cost me 20GB each. So... more than 200GB to get Glacial Lace on a lion. I am still not happy about that.

You know how many times I saw Glacial Glaze (the absolute one marking that did not fucking fit?). More than any other one, but if I'd kept counting after 5 I'd have cried.

This keeps me from ever buying a Doubloon or Ochre app. I'd get a 50% chance to get a marking on my king that actually fits into his design with smudge, siamese, or lace, and a 25% chance (...maybe? cuz you guys are right, this is an assumption not known) to get the laces I want.

This randomness combined with the actual real-time grind it is to get these things, made me not even bother visiting either the gorilla page or the referral page after I got the Feline marks I wanted on my king. I'll just wait and breed the laces into the slots I want...

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In light of me wasting 8gb and about 25k sb on Chatoyant Carvings only to get 5 felines in a fucking row, im bringing this back.

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I had already supported this way back, but I wanna add something:

The random apps seem to be getting more and more diverse (say, Maroon is 'make the top of your lion pink'; compare to Bloodbourne, with 'make the extremities/belly/back/speckles red'. ), so it's far harder to just give up and settle for a 'not quite there but still puts X color vaguely where I need it'.

Some Fiery marks look wayyyy better than others, but if you're down to 1GB and stuck with Undershine, you can hopefully live with it until you can buy another, because hey, it looks a little eh but at least it's not completely destroying the design.

Meanwhile, a design that looks good with Bloodbourne Vit will likely look god awful with the other three in the same slot. It feels a lot worse seeing Bloodbourne Dapple or Bloodbourne Belly or Bloodbourne Siamese completely hiding important parts of the design, or messing up your nice gradient, or whatnot, than 'crap, got the wrong Ice top half/Fiery lower portion/Maroon back, but at least it's not completely screwing over the design'.

Don't get me wrong, being able to have all sorts of different ways to include a color is great for designing... Just not for making that design a reality when it's via a random applicator.

If this trend continues, and it likely will, there will be fewer and fewer instances where people can settle for one less than ideal mark and mpre where they have to she'll out GB or leave the lion looking really awful; or that's what I'm trying yo day with the excessive paragraphs, at least.

Plus of course the whole mess of double marks not passing anymore and all, so. Yep.

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I enjoy multiple marks, however I have since come to understand the frustration behind this. I wonder if an easy fix could be to implement a choice factor when using the app? In example.. When you select the app for use, perhaps there could be a checkbox available where you can select (or deselect) the ability to allow multi marks to roll. Furthering that idea, maybe it could be an additional paid for function, like FAPA. You pay your monthly GB allotment and it will grant you the power to choose whether you roll repeat markings or not.

That way, only those who want the feature will get the feature - and that way you still have the option to roll multiple marks if you want to.

Bear in mind I literally just thought of this idea and it isn't well thought out in the slightest xD

Edited to add RMA would probably need be exempt from this, to preserve the sanctity of hard to get random markings, unfortunately.

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100% agree. Recently have attempted to make a double sunset king, however 3 times in a row I got feralis.
It kinda feels punishing, in a way, since I did all the work of collecting moonstones to purchase this applicator only for it to waste on a double marking. I also had to get the gb for a marking remover (only for it to give me feralis for the 3rd time), which also isn’t easy for some users.

Many suggestions I like, like perhaps checking a setting to allow double marks to roll, decrease the chances of it happening, or just removing the feature all together.

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SUPPORT

I wasted 50+ GB trying to get one specific sunset mark for my king, got Feralis like three times in a row, etc. It's garbage and I'm tired of wasting GB.

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Maybe we could keep the random applicators for those who like them, BUT also have separate applicators that let you CHOOSE which specific marking you do want? The apps that let you choose could even be just a *little* bit more expensive than the random apps, like, the random gregarious mark costs 20 locust wings so then the controlled gregarious mark app costs 30? Maybe?

Just a thought.

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Staff has a habit of going completely overkill when buffing or nerfing things. They'd probably make a nonrandom locust app as much as the locust base.

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I'm neutral on this but I do want to point out that auburn/ebony/maroon feline applicators are not random like the original post says: you get to choose the mark when you use the applicator on your lion. I've used both an auburn and ebony feline app on my current king.

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Just a few days ago I wasted a bunch of GB getting 4 blazing mists in a row. The only mark I wasn't ok with, 4 times. I gave up and used a tangor mark instead. That really grinds my gears, and that's nowhere near the worth of an enclave app. Full support.

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Yeah, a controlled gregarious mark app being that expensive would...suck.

But yeah, I 100% support your idea. There's got to be some way to make things fairer, especially for players like me for whom GB is a rare treat.

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Also, another idea:

Have the random apps do their random pick while still in the hoard, displaying what marking it's chosen BEFORE you apply it to your lion. The app can then ask you if you want that marking, you can say "no", and boom, no unwanted marking on your lion. So even if the app chooses an unwanted marking, at least you wouldn't have to spend GB to undo it.

(I also have a whole other idea about being able to reroll the app in the hoard at the cost of SB, but that's probably best saved for another thread).

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That's neat. You can trade applicators then, if they're preceded

So like Kimanjano Applicator: Kimanjano Lace, Doubloon Applicator: Doubloon Smudge, ect ect

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Still supporting it's very important theme and it needs to be alive. I think that all apps except random marking applicator need to be randomless

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