Posted by disallow disease names for lions

Jayden (Clean
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2020-04-25 09:16:21
The main focus on this thread is surrounding lions being named COVID-19 or Coronavirus for starters.
Other medical illnesses can be included too, depending on their context.

Short and simple; disease names should not be allowed. This doesn’t mean banning a user who decides to use it as a ‘joke’. Simply a warning and a mod reset of their lion’s name should be fine.

Code of Conduct 1.1b states “Users may not abuse, harass or in any other way purposely offend other users on site”.
Some people think this is a joke, and that in itself is offensive. What may not be offensive to you, can be triggering and upsetting to other people.
People on site could have lost family members to this/these illnesses and it shouldn’t be joked about publicly.

It’s okay to joke once in a while with your friends in a group chat, some people use ill humor to cope. But a public place with 2000+ active users a day is not the space for it.

The comments have discussed page after page that Lioden is supposed to be a get away from real life. This is even written in the Code of Conduct.
Naming a lion whatever you want is within your right, but it shouldn’t be at the expense of others as someone in a response on this thread posted.

This is not adding an automatic filtering system for names. That’s a bit extreme.

Also, I want to add that the block feature does not solve everything. You can still see their kings on Leaderboard, in the May event next month, there’s a toggle button to see a block user’s post in the forums.
Simply blocking them, does not eliminate the issue.

We’re in a global pandemic with people dying everyday.

And please know this thread has nothing to do with anything else besides being compassionate to other people who don’t find it as ‘funny’.

Special thanks to Roxanne (#121082) for helping write this out.



This suggestion has 196 supports and 132 NO supports.



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Edited on 29/04/20 @ 22:59:14 by Jayden (Clean Hibiscus) (#141141)

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2020-04-25 10:24:16
They were reported and nothing was done.



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Lilac Shreds (#69035)

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2020-04-25 10:24:26
Yeah the mods went around manually checking stud rules when they made the free studding change, and they do the same with names. The process would be slow but they would get rid of all offending names eventually.



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Ember! (#182350)

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2020-04-25 10:25:08
Cancer is the only one you could do, as it is a star sign, but corona? really?

edit: a word



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Edited on 25/04/20 @ 10:25:25 by Ember (Aziraphale X Crowley) (#182350)

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Lilac Shreds (#69035)

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2020-04-25 10:27:29
@Soyboy

There have been users calling their ions transphobic slurs and the n word who have been banned when reported. Less extreme but still offensive names have been manually changed.

Its not like it hasn't been done before.



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Posted on
2020-04-25 10:27:56
Corona could actually be fine depending on context, because it does have other meanings aside from being the shortened version of coronavirus



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2020-04-25 10:28:38
OP didn't include 'corona' because of, well, the other meanings including the adult drink.



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Lilac Shreds (#69035)

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2020-04-25 10:30:19
Yeah again, if there's a clear theme (for instance beer, Latin words) then it would be fine.



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Soy (#6036)

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2020-04-25 10:30:37
There's no overall policy on how to deal with this particular case, and I think they could be playing it safe by leaving the matter alone because it would be unfair for some people to be punished, while others are fine because they were addressed by different mods.

However I think drawing attention to this matter will get a bigger response, and it may be addressed more formally what Lioden's stance on this will be, which will allow the mods to better determine whether this is a punishable offense / punish everyone equally.

EDIT

@Doods I'm not saying people shouldn't be punished for certain names, I just don't think there should be words that are automatically filtered, I think it should remain on a case by case basis dependent on reports made.



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Edited on 25/04/20 @ 10:32:18 by SoyBoy (#6036)

Jayden (Clean
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Posted on
2020-04-25 10:32:57
i don't mean automatically code a filter in to block certain names / words



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Edited on 25/04/20 @ 10:33:15 by Jayden (Clean Hibiscus) (#141141)

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Lilac Shreds (#69035)

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2020-04-25 10:33:19
@Soyboy

That's how it works right now for everything that's against the ToS, it depends on the context and whether they have been known to break rules before.
It might seem unfair but it's a better system for letting people apologise rather than banning someone on first offense.

EDIT: I agree with you on that, there's no need for automatic word filters. I don't think it will change from this one suggestion.



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Edited on 25/04/20 @ 10:34:51 by Doods | Clean 2G Lilac Svelte (#69035)

Guillo [kinda froze] (#107254)


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Posted on
2020-04-25 10:35:04
I just have a question for those who are no supporting. Why do you want to name your lions these names so badly? Why is this so important to you when people are dying?



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Jayden (Clean
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2020-04-25 10:35:25
im curious about that too guillo



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Lilac Shreds (#69035)

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2020-04-25 10:36:06
@Jayden

You should put that in the main post because people are getting confused I think.



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Soy (#6036)

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Posted on
2020-04-25 10:36:32
Oh my bad, I misunderstood what you were getting at, I agree that those names shouldn't be allowed / condemned overall.

@Doods I know? I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying, I'm saying I like the current system and don't think it should be changed. EDIT Just saw your edit, I agree with you



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Edited on 25/04/20 @ 10:37:13 by SoyBoy (#6036)

Jayden (Clean
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Posted on
2020-04-25 10:36:34
okay I will



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