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-LOCKED - Hunting Changes - what is going on? | |
Posted on 2014-12-15 02:13:16
Greetings almighty lions, We've had a recent development regarding hunting - and how stat inflation is being affected by the recent change in price for skipping hunts. Since we changed the price from 1GB to 100SB to skip a hunt, we've seen a couple of members go a bit crazy on spending. While I'm sure you've been enjoying this little loop hole, unfortunately this has to come to an end! About a year ago we set out to make hunting fair and well-paced regarding giving out stats, and we reduced the stat rewards from randomly between 1-6 down to 1 stat per lioness per hunt. There were several complaints about this, as it took the fun and surprise out of hunting. Recently we gave you randomly an extra point! Yay! This alleviated some of the tediousness of sending your lionesses hunting only to get 1 measly point. However, this alone made it possible for lionesses to get double what they were getting - from a solid 10 points per day (if you completed all 10 hunts, or more if you added hunts) to a potential 20 points per day (or more.. etc). When we changed the price from 1GB to 100SB, some of you who had stockpiled your SB went on a spending spree and - by increasing the amount of hunts a lioness could go on in a day, while also skipping the hunting time - managed to raise 4 year olds to extremely high levels, with thousands and thousands of stat points. This is something that we strived to avoid a year ago, and by being overlooked (by myself, primarily) it has allowed super-buffed lionesses back into the game. So as a result, we have removed the ability to add extra hunts to your lionesses. You can still skip hunts and get your hunting results immediately, and it still only costs 100SB instead of 1GB. Our reason for doing this, rather than reverting the cost of hunt skipping, is because we feel confident that you have enough to do as it is - you don't need to sit and worry about adding more and more and more hunts to your lionesses, just to stay competitive. Additionally, we feel that limiting lionesses to 10 hunts per day as standard will help to regulate the inflation of stats (whereas if you can still add hunts, you're still adding stat points). We also don't want this game to be pay-to-win (which it was when you could use a $0.50 in-game currency to skip your hunts while other members had to wait). I'm sure a lot of you feel very strongly about this issue, and we'd like to invite you to express your feelings in the comments. But please keep in mind that we, as developers, are trying to do the best that we can for the game and for ALL members - not just the top 1% (;D). Or 5%, or 10%. We feel that this is a fair compromise. As always, if you want to express your opinions, please be respectful towards all the staff, and other members. We all have to get used to big changes which sometimes don't seem like they are for the best, but we promise we're trying to do everything we can to make things fair. Finally, steroid lioness says thank you for feeding her stats over the past two weeks: 0 players like this post! Like? |
🌸Crafty🌸 (#35722)
Deathlord of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-15 03:40:10 |
I agree with Fortuna. Explore is always over in a jiffy and with hunts being limited I have no reason to be here any longer than it will take me to explore and reset my hunts. I don't want to spend my time and money elsewhere but I might have to, This game is becoming more and more frustrating to play and changes like this are making it boring and taking the competitiveness out of it. I really hope this "solution" is temporary until they find something else. If not I can't see myself spending much time here at Lioden. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Seph|G1 Haunted 14BO (#39153)
Holy View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-15 03:42:35 |
I have to agree with Tserin and others who voiced the same concerns. I realize this has caused a problem, but the only thing that caused said problem was you guys deciding to change the "skip hunts" cost. Doesn't it make more sense to just reverse the cost change to "skip hunts", or simply make it a higher SB cost, instead of taking away something else entirely? 0 players like this post! Like? |
ChaosDeath🐱 (#2790)
King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-15 03:42:50 |
I have to be honest, I know stats matter now but I'm not 100% why you're taking away a lot of people's ability ((not mine true)) to feed their prides when you put in place the stat nerf in breeding anyway. Plus, all the people who have brought up having this one SB sink is part of it, I think they're right. It's more than that too. It is going to get stagnant. Sure, I never had a chance, and I was okay with that. What about people who wanted that chance. Honestly I haven't used the add a hunt in ages since I made 2 hunting teams and hadn't used the skip either. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Pattes (#24830)
Impeccable View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-15 03:43:18 |
Seiden 👑 (#31516)
Grumpy View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-15 03:44:15 |
Everytime I find something challenging in that game, making it worthwile to play to, you guys ruins it. I wanted to breed for the challenge to get mutated lions, and the GMO cows ruined it, making muties flooding the market. I wanted to breed for the challenge to get a quadruple siamese stud, and the prophet thing ruined it, letting anyone to easily have a lot of quad siamese (or even more!) without doing anything I got that special NCL and got the challenge to train her until a decent amout of stats, like, at least 400+, and I can't replenish her hunts anymore. What's next? Every base and every marking will be available in the oasis? If there is no competition, no challenge, and if hard-playing can't surpass richer or older players, if higher statted lions and lionesses can't be surpassed anymore, what fun is left? Trying to mix lion's markings for a dead market? Repeatitive clics on the "explore" button when nothing truly happens? I love that game so much and was so addicted to it, but I feel like it's dying..... 0 players like this post! Like? |
Kristall (#24826)
King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-15 03:44:21 |
Spectre [CLEAN Pied Spectre] (#8680) Majestic View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-15 03:49:29 |
I just realized that hunting is now MORE limited than before when I joined. Not only was there no limit to how much you could hunt but you got more stats and more food... Now you can only hunt 10 times which is only a max of 2 carcasses per hunt if you're lucky and stats are still pretty nerfed by comparison. There really isn't much reward for doing it anymore. And this is bad news for those with massive prides. I originally didn't care but now I see why people are upset. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Bilby [G1 Interstellar 3ros] (#22185) View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-15 03:50:54 |
e.e Okay, not to be jaded / cynical about reading the comments here, but every comment that is positive about the add hunts button being removed is also quick to add that they never or rarely ever used it :/ This isn't a change that affects casual players (trying to avoid using it as "filthy casuals" if anyone is hearing ti as such) really, but for anyone who spends more than 5 hours online, this is a horrific blow. And to anyone who tries to make it into the leaderboards, or even improve their prides stats without using much outside blow, this completely destroys any chance of that happening :/ 0 players like this post! Like? |
NinjaCheetah (#31940)
King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-15 03:51:57 |
Ahh I had been worried this would happen; which it has done |D I'm glad you've managed to find a solution however; thank you <33 Although, I feel that maybe it'd be better to instead change it back to the way it used to be, with the original price instead? I'd rather be able to have extra hunts than speed up the hunts, personally ;u; And I can see that quite a few people feel the same too! ;O; Soren, as well as a few others, have explained my thoughts very well. As a stat breeder, this is quite a blow to everything I work for OTL 0 players like this post! Like? Edited on 15/12/14 by NinjaCheetah (#31940) |
Graciegra (#3127)
Champion View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-15 03:52:16 |
ЯΛVΣП (#17481)
Usual View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-15 03:54:32 |
Yes, without high stated lions, then there will be less food going around. And with lower stated lions food will not always be available. But for a few people's actions not all should be punished? 0 players like this post! Like? |
Ni'Vara (#41667)
Amazing View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-15 03:56:29 |
I like this change. I did, a few times, skip all the hunts of my lioness however I never added more hunts. I was doing it for food mainly. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Seventails (#38441)
Deathlord of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-15 03:56:48 |
I have to agree with Bilby again. I've seen it in this thread and in the chat, that people are alright with the change while saying they never used the add hunts anyway. Though, these people should consider what this cut-off means for people who play a bit longer a day OR for the gameplay in a whole in a few months. I really hope this will be resolved again. It more and more sounds to me like this is a really weird excuse to take away the "add hunt" feature, because THIS step was in no-way logical. IF a feature causes trouble, you remove the feature. So, which feature caused the trouble? The 100 Sb - Skip one ... why not remove THIS feature, instead of removing a feature who had been sitting there all the time, without a problem ?? Remove the problematic skip feature, fiddle out a good way to either keep it (limit the skipping amounts or highten the price back up again) or just get rid of it ... but DON'T remove another feature which was not exactly the problem of this mess. It really starts to sound weird and unlogical ... 0 players like this post! Like? |
koben (#328)
Deathlord of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-15 04:00:15 |
:adding to my earlier post: all that the removal of additional hunts is doing is going to slow down stat growth (yes stagnate growth but its better than p2w) and for those with larger prides, you know actually use those extra lionesses ... you still have something to do you dont get an account bound 10 hunts per day you get anywhere form 1 - how ever large the larges pride is in hunts :/ hence why a large pride is both a gift and a curse. -i am glad that the admin are choosing not to actually stat dock the people that used there features this time like they did in the first few months of the game due to the ppl not leveling up their lion thing. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Nny (#257)
Bone Collector View Forum Posts Posted on 2014-12-15 04:00:46 |
Welp, Nny is glad you're all attempting to fix the problem first off and not just leaving it and such. ;3 However, I'm kinda quite sad that now I don't really stand a chance of breeding my own leaderboard lioness without breeding to leaderboard studs it seems, unless I somehow get rich enough to get my own king tons of stat boosting items .x. With stats being changed like they were and such like that, it's quit discouraging to say the least. :c But Nny's not one to just give up, so maybe one day, farrrr in the future of Lioden, I'll get one of my ladies on there haha. That said, others like Bilby, Soren, Tserin, Axel and such said everything else I'd want to say already. Just remember darlings. Breath. One, Two, Three, O, T, P. One, Two, Three, O,T,P lol. We shall get through this crisis!...Although I don't think it' much of a crisis really, but whatever works! x3 0 players like this post! Like? |