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Maybe instead of taking out extra hunts and skips we could put a limit on the stats gained per day for lionesses? It'd be normal for the first 10 hunts whether skipping is used or not but every added hunt after that would decrease the chances of gaining stats/EXP such as only being able to gain 1+ in a stat or occasionally getting no stat gain at all (lowered EXP gain)? If you're hunting with the same lionesses 50 times a day then you'd imagine they'd get tired eventually, huh? I'd like to keep the current skip fee as it is honestly because I don't have all the time in the world to spend on this site waiting for the hunt timer to end nor do I have the cash to spare as much as I'd like to. Perhaps skips could be limited to the first 10 per lioness? Extra hunts could still be bought but with no means to skip the wait time and lowered EXP/Stat gains or no stat gain. This way people could still hunt for food if they needed or wanted to.

This is only my opinion. I voted 2 because I like how skips were changed to SB - however that doesn't mean I don't want skips at all. I'm often lucky if I'm able to get even 5 hunts in for my MAIN lionesses per day because I'm forgetful.. so having skips available for SB was great for me. I agree that some sort of limit needs to happen to prevent further inflation but I'd rather not see skips gone :c Anyway, I hope staff can work out some sort of alternative.

Edit: @FraidyCat omg you read my mind aha! LOL

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I really like the 3rd option the most.

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I don't have a problem with the current system in place considering the low stat inheritance; 6500+ stat lionesses are only having 2000 stat cubs with the highest stat male which is still achievable by patrolling/hunting without using skips.

I think 2 seems like the best option and I wouldn't mind having less hunts with my main team per day. It does not prevent you from hunting, if anyone is worried about the cap you can always use other lionesses too!

Option 3 would also be good if the SB price was lowered quite a bit and the GB option removed. 1000 SB is at the lower end of GB prices so it isn't much different to just having a GB skip option in my opinion.

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Spri/FraidyCat: How is that fair on people who hunt very regularly without skips, as they ar active on site? Penalizing active players for an arbitrary, unnecessary feature isn't a positive choice.

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I honestly almost think stats need to go back to being useless at this point. The spectrum is already vastly skewed as stats stand right now.

Instead I think skill should be what is important.

All lions start off with only 1 skill, no matter the stats.

By using skill as the one important stat for game play (battles, etc) then the playing field will be completely even. Everyone would have the same opportunity to raise their lions skills.

The stat breeders can go back to being stat breeders, markings breeders can go back to being markings breeders -- and everyone will be equal in terms of what is needed for all to prosper.

Just my 2 cents :)



But with stats now meaning something - here are my thoughts:

As far as the skips/refills for hunts goes, I like having the option to add additional hunts. It keeps me on the site longer. Like I said in a earlier post. I enjoy sending my lionesses out for more than 10 hunts sometimes when I have extra time to kill during the day. Not having that I will either only be on the site for less time or I'll have to get more lionesses in order to keep sending them hunting.

I would really like to see the additional hunts option stay the way it was originally. I do however think something does need to be done about the stat gain through constant skip usage. So I like the option that increases the skip cost, but leaves the additional hunts alone.

I would really like a limit to just be put on the amount of skips and leave additional hunts part the way it was. That way people who work towards leveling their lionesses by sending them to hunt 10+ times a day (but waiting the 30 minutes) can still do so.

By limiting the number of hunts a lioness can go on then you know from the beginning what that lioness potential is maxed out at. (or a rough estimate of it)

But by allowing additional hunts back then a player who is working hard to get that low stated lioness higher doesn't hit that brick wall -- it all depends on their own hard work (and time) in getting her higher and higher.

Yes there is a certain limit based on time a person can actually send the lioness hunting each day - but on some days that lioness might be able to get 20 hunts in and those day can be a boon in her leveling over time.

Typed quickly sorry for any typos.

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Option 2. It makes the most sense.

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Weaver Lynn: How so? I've yet to see most people in support of option 2 defend it with arguments, and I'd love to hear them.

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I have to agree with Maulise.
Though, when I look at the poll and how this is heading, even though the staff said it is not an absolute decision .. I feel like fighting a battle that's already lost and only because, yes sorry I have to say it, of a miscalculation and instead of putting it back to the old system and think something new out, people who spend more time on the site get "punished".

Oh well ~sighs deeply~ ... just when I got into the game for real, it really does sadden me, because I did enjoy LD more or less how it was with the old one.

Occassionally used extra hunts, when I had the time to, never really used skipping.
When it came to skipping being 100 SB, I either skipped to have full 10 or I didn't when I had the time to spend the SB on additional hunts, I never really would do both, because expensiiive over time.

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Sadly, I'm not voting.

I respect the staff, so I'm not going to toss alot of drama here. I do think a lot of this simply melts down to a witchhunt against a couple players they took advantage of the change that the game gave them. And when Abbey owned up to her mistake this morning, people took it as a invite to take shots at her in the News post.

Sorry, I think everyone needs to step back, take a chill pill, and thing on this before jumping onto the bandwagon with their vote. Its a mess, and just causing hurt feeling and making people want to bail on the site.

My two cents. I'm allowed them. =)

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I think the main problem scaring people off from option #3 - the most reasonable one imo, it allows the skip to be left at SB at least, although I would be fine with it being removed altogether - is the price of the SB skips.
I think if the first 10 skips were the 100SB, then plus 500SB for each additional set of 5 hunts, it would allow people to get in their 10 hunts for food (although it really is cheaper just to buy it guys, saying that as a person who has been on both ends of that situation) while increasing the cost of skipping steeply enough to make it impractical to buy your way onto the leaderboards.
Mau's suggestion for skips to bring back less stats/none at all in exchange for a shot at a third carcass seems a reasonable fix as well ^^

Something I haven't seen suggested yet anywhere is this - if it's possible to get a max of 48 hunts per day, with the absolute best min-max situation and no sleep, why can't we cap the refills used to 40, as an additional safeguard, in addition to the tiered skip costs? People who manage 25-40 hunts a day are not being punished, because the hunt cap (50 a day) is beyond what they can actually achieve in a day without skipping, and most dedicated hunters I've spoken to didn't use the skip to race their favourite gals through their hunts, but it does limit those who would want to use the skip feature to get their hunts in to 50 a day max. Yes, there is 2-10 hunts that non-skip hunters physically wouldn't be able to catch up without skipping, but a 2-10 stat per day gap is much smaller than a 300+ stat a day gap. And with 100SB per the first ten skips, those who are active enough can get those last few hunts in after their 30 minute ones to wait it out. Effectively has the same result as the queuing skips suggestion, that you can use 10 then have to wait 5 hours, as far as I can see? (I've just woken up, so could be a maths fail though x3)

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I adore additional hunts, when my lionesses reach that limit.
However, no 2# would have to do.

... but can i not vote?

I love the hunting system as it is, skipping only 100sb and additional hunts at 10sb.
But i hardly skip the hunting as i like to have the 30 minute wait, and only do additional hunts when needed.

So that is the reason i'm not going to vote, to me i would like no change in the way hunting is done.

But getting more stats for the lionesses?
As someone has stated, the stats being bred are already odd due to the new stat system.
It's a pain when a 4k + 9k only get 1 - 2K stated cubs, it will take a lot of effort to make up the stated again.

But then, they said ( The Adams) that this was only in place to get rid of the massive stat gap, then they will remove it.

Good job there :3

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Anything but #2. Even how it was, with unlimited 100 SB skips, is a better option in my mind. #2 will completely stagnant the system - lionesses will be capped to a (quite low) maximum of stats that can be gained in their life, and so many people will attain this max, especially with the skipping option. Thus, the lions that currently have the highest stats, and their offspring, will always be the highest statted lions. That is even less fun than P2W.

I do really like Le Greater Bilby's suggestion. ^.^

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Option 2, it's the best for at least me. It gives me the food I need, xp for my lionesses, and still some stats. Sometimes I just don't have all day to hunt like other members. People have jobs and schoos, or are just busy. The skips are great when I don't have much time and my lions need food. So yeah, mostly in it for the food.

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I rather like Bilby's suggestion . Out've all the ones I've seen so far , including my own, I like hers the best .

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