-LOCKED - Hunting Stuffs - Poll Time!
Posted on 2014-12-15 06:33:03
Hello lions!

We've listened to your feedback, suggestions and comments and have decided to give you guys a poll regarding the hunting feature to see what you feel is best, and to gauge more public opinion and where it's sitting.

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There are four options that are available on the poll, and I will explain each of them:

Option 1 - Revert back to 1 GB to skip hunts, and additional hunts go back to normal.
Basically we return to how it was before the SB skip was switched. Skipping was a luxury.

Option 2 - Keep the new system. Pay SB to skip hunts still, but no additional hunts.
Everyone has the same playing field, and it's effectively capped.

Option 3 - Change the system to have skipping incur a cost of 1000SB OR 1 GB (whichever currency you'd prefer to use), with each skip causing the price to increase in tiers. The proposed is increasing the SB cost by 100SB at a time, so the first skip would cost 1000SB, second would be 1100SB, 1200SB, and so on and so forth. Additional hunts would return as they were before - 10 SB per hunt.

Option 4 - The same as option 3, except also tier up the cost of additional hunts. First additional hunt costing 100SB, increasing in 10SB increments. Second 110SB, then 120sb, etc etc.

You can vote on the polls page - click here for a direct link there.

Please keep in mind that Lioden is really dear to us and we care about all of you on here! We listen to each and every one of you but have to make decisions to try to balance the game where we can. We don't want to remove competition and we also don't want to make things completely unfair, either, so it's all about finding a nice middle.

Thanks for sticking with us guys!

Pls don't poop on me for this. ;0;



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Posted on
2014-12-15 09:40:46
If anyone is wondering, i've modified my post XD



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Posted on
2014-12-15 09:42:00
How about the skip hunt cost is 100SB no matter how many times you skip but adding hunts would increase in cost?



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2014-12-15 09:44:41
Minimanta: That would punish active hunters for a completely arbitrary feature that they might not even use. I'm not the only person that normally hunts 25+times a day, which is fair, as we put in the time. The point that created the issue was the skip feature, which is what should be altered, in my eyes.



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2014-12-15 09:46:31
@Minimanta While I agree with Mau to the fullest on the other hand I think that if they simply cap the amount of hunts that could be added to each lioness, lets say they could only add 15-20 per day for each lioness, that neither price would have to be raised .



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Posted on
2014-12-15 09:49:30
not bashing or anything here, but all of those option... frankly they suck. The SB amount is RIDICULOUS. And the no extra hunting thing also really sucks. Personally I'd like to pay a couple of GB to put an extra daily hunt on a lioness permanently. But that's just me~



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2014-12-15 09:50:03
But not having a skip option would punish people who can't be active. We all need food for our lions but not everybody are able to hunt enough for them.



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2014-12-15 09:51:54
- Raises hand- One of those people would be me Minima.



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2014-12-15 09:53:09
@Minimanta If you interpreted my post correctly I want to simply cap the amount of hunts that can be added to each lioness individually, keeping the price the same to do so, to 10 or 15 hunts, 20 at most , and keep the time skip option available as it is now at 100 SB per skip .



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Posted on
2014-12-15 09:54:40
What about after ten hunts, you no longer get stats for the same lions? You would have to wait until the next day. The exp would become little after ten hunts also. After, your lions would just keep bringing back food. I'm probably not thinking this through though...



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2014-12-15 09:56:25
Minimata/Tazzie: I've refuted the 'skipping for food' argument several times, but here it is again: Buying large carcasses is cheaper than paying the skip fee. You can find giraffes for 100 SB or less, and can often buy 2+ other large carcasses for that amount, whereas you have a decent chance of getting legs, dikdiks or warthogs by using the skip feature, especially with lower level lionesses.

EDIT: Ryo: That's not much different to option 2, and frankly, still not fair on active players. We, those of us that hunt well over 10 times a day should have something to show for it, whether on the same lions, as I do (25+ hunts on a trio of lionesses), or on different ones. This idea would mostly negate the advantage of hunting more than 10 times with a single lioness. Active players put in the time, they should be able to receive the benefit of stats in return.



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Edited on 15/12/14 by Maulise | Autumn Floof (#32469)

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2014-12-15 09:57:49
Lis:
I have noticed and do know that buying food is cheaper than skipping.



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2014-12-15 09:59:33
Maulise: That's true, but you don't get any stats from just buying meat from other people and I'm sure less active users do still want those stats.



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Edited on 15/12/14 by Minimanta (#1684)

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2014-12-15 09:59:53
Tazzie: Then where's the issue of cutting back on skipping? ._. If you can buy food cheaper, there's no detriment to you, unless you're specifically concerned about stat farming.

EDIT: Minimata: If they want the stats, they can still hunt. time should give stats, not money. A Pay-to-win model for stats, regardless of the currency involved isn't fair on players, as GB will correspond to SB. If less active players want stats, they have the option of putting the time in. I'm a university student, and an invested one, at that, I just schedule LD in such a way that it doesn't interfere with my daily life. If other players chose not to do this, it's their own prerogative. Everyone has their values and priorities and I respect that. However, I want a positive feedback mechanism based on the larger amount of time I spend on this website.



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Edited on 15/12/14 by Maulise | Autumn Floof (#32469)

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Posted on
2014-12-15 10:03:27
@Ryo I'm almost certain that someone else has suggested this, however for me and many others that would make the adding hunts feature seem rather pointless as we add hunts to get stats for that particular lioness , which is why I suggested what I did . It allows people to continue to skip as many hunts as they need to , keeping the current price while still allowing those of us who use the adding hunts feature to keep doing as we were before but still prevents people from abusing either feature to gain over 100 stats per day . With what I suggested, if the maximum amount of hunts that could be added to each individual lioness after it's used the 10 free ones each day was 20, the maximum amount of stat gain per day would be 60 stat points per lion which is highly unlikely .

The maximum amount of hunts per day is 48 assuming the person does not sleep, before since there was no cap on how many hunts or skips you could add/use per lion these features were being abused . But if there's a cap on how many hunts can be added per day for each lioness, this cannot be done again .




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Posted on
2014-12-15 10:09:43
option 2!



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