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Berenos|On hiatus (#84593)

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2017-09-16 02:31:17
Are you more into mane shapes? Then the Mane Genetics Thread is here for you

Want to check out a particular combo quickly? Use ctrl + f and type its name, or use the "search on site" option if you are using a cellphone :)



Wiki entry about Combo Bases

This began as a way to share theories about possible combinations, but then things got way bigger than expected. A lot of people have invested a lot of currency in the scrying stone to see if we were right about combos, and here is the result :D

But wait... What are combo bases?



When you breed two lions with the right combination of bases, their cubs roll a further, extra chance that can result in a third, new base, a "combo" base. Each combo base has its own requirements, and these bases often ignore the set genetic rules: for example, the Cairngorm combo base (Black Light Solid Special genetics) can be obtained by breeding a Celestial lion (Black Dark Countershaded Special genetics) and a Cocoa lioness (Black Medium Countershaded Rare genetics). Most combo bases can be passed down as long as one parent has it and further requirements are met if there are any, with the exception of Pulsar and Temporal.

*Since the 12th October update, cubs that have triggered the original combo bases - Cairngorm, Citrine, Madagascar or Qahir - have a 50% chance of getting their respective mane color, and these can be inherited like any other mane color!

Right now there are two different types of combo bases: "standard" combos and "factor" combos. Factor ones can be obtined by breeding any of the bases that make up the combo, but standard ones can be obtained by more than one combination of bases that are assembled into two different groups. The combo can trigger as long as the parents have bases that belong to a different combo group (not to be mistaken by the genetic color group).

*Note: While some of the following standard combo tables have been completed, there may be some combinations that remain undiscovered yet.

Standard combos:





Arabica

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Arabica by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black



  • Buttercream

  • Buttermilk






Asiatic

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Asiatic by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Dun

  • Gray



  • Cream

  • White






Black Rose

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Black Rose by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar



  • Jet

  • Obsidian

  • Onyx






Cairngorm

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Cairngorm by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Celestial

  • Ice

  • Sidereal

  • Skyward



  • Cocoa

  • Ethereal

  • Pearl

  • Slate






Citrine

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Citrine by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar

  • Kimanjano

  • Topaz

  • Xanthic



  • Cherry Blossom

  • Fiery

  • Fulvous

  • Sulphur






Cloudburst

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Cloudburst by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Chartreux

  • Korat

  • Maltese






Elysian

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Elisyan by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Ice



  • Divine

  • Ebony






Ember

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Ember by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Blazing

  • Fiery



  • Flint

  • Pewter






Hellebore

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Hellebore by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Lilac



  • Goldenrod

  • Udara






Madagascar

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Madagascar by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Sapela

  • Sepia

  • Shedua

  • Unholy



  • Ivory

  • Nacre

  • Sunset

  • Supernal






Nadir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Nadir by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black Rose

  • Ebony



  • Ardor

  • Hellebore

  • Rhodonite






Pulsar

This base can only be obtained via combo during July, but can be passed down by breeding two Pulsar based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Pulsar by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Arctic



  • Anjeer

  • Blazing

  • Inferno

  • Prune






Qahir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Qahir by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Buff

  • Cameo

  • Hallowed

  • Russet



  • Chartreux

  • Glacial

  • Hematite

  • Opal






Snowflake

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Snowflake by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Arctic

  • Aufeis

  • Frostbitten

  • Glacial

  • Ice






Temporal

This base can only be obtained via combo during October, but can be passed down by breeding two Temporal based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Temporal by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Unholy



  • Bast

  • Sunset




Factor combos:





Gilded

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Gilded by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Anubis



  • Bast



  • Seth






Olive

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Olive by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Caramel



  • Xanthic






Rose Gold

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Rose Gold by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Alabaster



  • Sha



  • Velvet






Soul

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Soul by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Ivory



  • Ebony





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Edited on 19/12/19 @ 03:40:35 by Jingle Bere (#84593)

Bezthiel πŸ‰ (#81210)

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2017-12-27 21:12:13
Alright! I finally got an answer on this from the Modbox:

"Hello!

The combo x combo breeding should not pass a combo. We are looking into why the scrying stone threw this. Thank you!"

Looks like this is, unfortunately, a bug. Still, since I'm interested to see if it's affecting breedings with just one or with two combo bases, I'll probably keep wasting my money scrying different options.



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Edited on 27/12/17 @ 21:18:37 by Bezthiel #ShrikeHoarder (#81210)

muttduck (#78)

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Posted on
2017-12-28 03:29:00
What a bummer that it shouldn't pass that way...



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2017-12-30 11:40:35
So if you have a combo base it could pass again breeding it to any of the other 8 in the boxes, but not another combo? I have a couple of madagascar and I'm not sure if they can even pass another?

Never mind. I found the answer in the original combo base news post

Edit: Combo bases can pass if they meet combo criteria, ie. Cairngorm needs at least one of the 8 listed bases to be parent 2.



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Edited on 30/12/17 @ 11:51:16 by Snowcat13-triple ros/clouded (#52694)

Orcinus [Starlit
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2018-01-01 06:27:49
Sorry, I misread some stuff. I'm such a dunce xD



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Edited on 01/01/18 @ 06:31:59 by Orcinus [Blazing Tiger King] (#31718)

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2018-01-01 06:28:53
@Orcinus

I'm unsure why you share her here. Bone is a very common base :o



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Desolace, Colorbomb (#36375)

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2018-01-11 07:38:37
Ive been breeding a group for Madagascar, so far Ive had all fails from all breedings. (Edits: Been using the sake king since the base was released)

Im using these bases:

Nacre
Unholy
Sapela
Shedua
Supernal
Ivory

I would like to try sepia, but Ive had no luck getting one. Seems a super super low chance of getting madagascar, but a super high chance of getting prune as prune is the most common special base thats been passing.



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Edited on 11/01/18 @ 07:40:31 by Gruth, Madagascar King! πŸ‰ (#36375)

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Posted on
2018-01-11 07:41:01
What male are you using?



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Desolace, Colorbomb (#36375)

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2018-01-11 07:42:04
My Main, hes madagascar, madagascar can pass when using one of the original bases. Or so Ive read here.



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2018-01-11 07:45:59
I think it was told that you can only produce combo base by breeding the 8 special bases and a lion with combo base won't pass it



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2018-01-11 08:05:36
The original news post said it can pass using if the other parent is one of the 8 bases.

Most of my madagascars have been from my sunset stud on side with unholy moms. I have had 3 so far.



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Posted on
2018-01-11 08:33:20
@Gruth

In theory yes, you should be able to breed another Madagascar from breeding a Madagascar with a lion that has any of the 8 bases that make up the combo. But it must be a very low rate if you haven't had any luck so far :o



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2018-01-11 08:37:02
Hopefully someone will have luck with that and post back here so we know for sure.



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Desolace, Colorbomb (#36375)

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Posted on
2018-01-11 09:37:33
I almost wonder if Sunset, being an ultra rare base in itself, has a better chance of passing.



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Posted on
2018-01-11 09:38:18
I scried a madagascar lioness with my sunset king fifty times. I got four prunes, four anjeers, no madagascars. I'll give it fifty more tries and report back.



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Desolace, Colorbomb (#36375)

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Posted on
2018-01-11 09:39:40
I scried on all of my girls with all the Maddy base groupings and I have still to get a maddy base. Ive spent several thousands sb...so not sure what the deal is with that lol



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