x100 between #40586 and #794116947048 = no result

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I'm curious about other inverted marks, too. If anyone wants to scry marbled unders to inverted zebra, rosette and cheetah, that'd be awesome, too ^_^ I'm on 1SB right now, so hands are tied for a while xD!

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Just tried

White Inverted Zebra x White Marbled Unders x100 = Nothing.
White Inverted Cheetah x White Marbled Unders x100 = Nothing.

Used both my kings and this Lioness

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Nice, thanks for those results, Talmoi!
I'm thinking there must be a particular combination to this set that I've not picked up on, yet - that or some lions pass it easier than others, like seems to be the case with mottled. That, or the Coral Luster does actually have a part to play in it, somewhere. I'm thinking it might be a combination thing, though.

In saying that, I haven't checked if white on white has been successful, yet. It might have something to do with colours after all? I'll check back through results and update the spreadsheet later tonight when I have time.

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I don't think my prides have what it takes to make the new rosette's. I've scryed a tonne of my lions, gotten combo bases, old rosettes and a tonne of lilac's but not a single new rosette.

Edit: After looking through the spreadsheet i noticed all the lions have some sort of unders/lace marking so i grabbed 2 random lions from search and started scrying.

76 attempts later - Mum and Dad

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I was scrying mane combos trying to decide whether or not to king my Ebony Royal girly when this thing popped up;



King Hidden marking is Onyx Cheetah Heavy, just checked it.
Lioness marking are below, kinged her.


Edit, Edit: Her markings before customizing/kinging.
Slot 1: Chatoyant Pelage (45%)
Slot 4: Hyena Stripes Scarce Cream (58%)
Slot 7: Chatoyant Feline (40%)
Slot 8: Celestial Speckles (60%)
Slot 9: White Blaze (71%)

Also have a screenshot of her original markings if you need them. :P

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My King x Lioness x100 = Nada.

Figured it was worth a go since both this lioness and the above one both have White Blaze in slot 9.
May check with another Chatoyant Feline girl later. Also have another Hyena Stripes Scarce girl, but this one is Black instead of Cream.


Edit: My King x Chatoyant Feline x2 Lioness x100 - Scried a random Onyx Rosette slot 5, but that was about it.

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I'm wondering if only one parent needs the "combination" while the other needs a specific slave slot for the rosette to jump into? Will investigate!; Thanks for these results, guys!

Perhaps Onyx Paws + Some kind of Lace or unders and/or Marbled Unders has something to do with how it passes.

I am still fairly certain the Inverted markings and the Marbled Unders has something to do with it, since a vast majority of lions scryed and bred have Marbled Unders or Inverted Brindle. Wondering if it applies to more than Inverted brindle and ALL inverted markings?

The Lioness that Talmoi used had:
White Lace
Inverted Cheetah

The King that Talmoi used had:
Onyx Points
Onyx Lace (and other Lace)
White Soft Unders

Kit's results were slightly more confusing. The King used had:

Marbled Unders
Lace
Inverted Cheetah

while the Lioness had none of the 'marker' markings I would have expected. Perhaps it has something to do with Hyena? Or perhaps it passed in the extra empty slot because the king had all the marks and the lioness didn't need any?

I'll update the spreadsheet today, too, guys. Sorry for the delay, as I wasn't online after RO last night.

ALSO; Am wondering if it is worthwhile in continuing to scry lions with the random rosettes? It seems pairings the same do result in the new rosettes, so maybe it is an indication that they are able to produce it? Or perhaps there is actually a way to breed the random rosettes as well? Or maybe the random rosettes ARE just random after all :)

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Spreadsheet is up to date

I am now going to compile a spreadsheet with a list of all markings that are shared in common, for easier comparison, and then place the none shared marks at the bottom.

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Thanks for all your work on this. Hope we can crack the code. LOL

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:'D I feel like we're so close, there is just something that we aren't quite picking up on! We'll get there, it just takes more digging :DD Possibly the rosette is still random to an extent, but if you get the combination you are more likely to get it? Rather than it being a 100% pass; the pass rate is probably very slim - so that in mind, we could possibly already have figured out the 'equation' - but maybe the pass rate is just quite low xD Who knows!

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Alright, so I was thinking.. A way to eliminate possibilities would be to scry each pairing with an unmarked lion, and see if the markings still appear? That way, we can see if it is a set combination of markings on ONE lion, or if it is needed on BOTH lions? If anyone wants to volunteer doing that with an unmarked NCL with each or any of the current confirmed kings on the spreadsheet, that would be amazing. I'm thinking 100 attempts would be more than enough, considering successful scry results have been below 100 thus far (so I'm thinking it is within 1:100 odds, at least).

Also, updating - no results from 100 tries with:
#835 and #794116427868
King had:
White Inverted Brindle
Onyx Lace

Lioness had:
White Marbled Unders
(Onyx Paws)

No result from the same lioness to #40586
king had:
White Inverted Brindle
Onyx Points
(Onyx Paws)
Ivory Lace

No result #305
king had:
Ardor Inverted Brindle
Onyx Lace

No result #15283
Ardor Inverted Brindle (same slot as Marbled Unders)
Onyx Points
Hyena Heavy
Prune Siamese

No result #64129
(sire of the soft ginger rosette)

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Suuuuuper crazy theory here; BUT .. I just went through ALL the born and scryed new rosettes.. And out of the entire lot, ALL of them had a red-based parent EXCEPT for four - all of which had a black-based parent.

Coincidence? Likely. But I might do a few color-based scry attempts, just to rule it out for certain. That would definitely throw a spanner in the works, but I did have the brief thought earlier - based on the available rosette colours - that perhaps the colour may be thrown by the base fails? Food for thought, hm hm hmmmm..


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https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?mid=26476
https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=614165600135

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I've got SB to kill - I'll try doing some markingless scries.

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NCL for all scries: 794117142491

KING: 64129
100 scries - no rosettes

KING: 127208
100 scries - no rosettes

KING: 4297
100 scries - no rosettes

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My king x NCL markingless Zarafshan x120, Nothing. Could just be bad luck though?

Went with the same base that I scried it with previously, just in case.

Edit: I may try with my other Hyena girl when I get the SBs for it. :P

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