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lets not get the topic locked please friendly discussion since this is a serious issue please

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I think it’s safe to say that a lot of naming conventions can be labeled as offensive and distasteful, no doubt. Not just ones that affect everybody and most of the population such as covid.

Honestly, I don’t care whether it’s implemented, not because I’m trying to be insensitive, but because that’s my personal opinion. I’m not arguing for or against it. But on the same note, nobody would be negatively affected by these naming strategies being ejected from the game. I’m not taking sides as I understand both and that’s all I have to say. ^^

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People seem to assuming that it's the NAME that people are having a problem with which, in a way, yes it is. However, the main ordeal is not the name but the impact the names have on people due to the recent occurrences irl. You're naming your lion something that a person has to look at and be reminded of that killed a family member or friend and stating that you shouldn't care because it 'doesn't bother you.' Then really don't bother with this post.

There should be zero viable reason for anyone to be naming a lion after something that has killed nearly a hundred thousand people. It's not cool, it's not funny, it's not 'edgy.' It's a disgusting and revolting thing to do and you might be the one that reminds a person that today their friend/dad/mom/sister/WHOEVER has died because of this disease that's running rampant on our world.

I have zero reason to believe that anyone who's named their lion after Covid or anything is doing it in good faith. It's clear that anyone suffering from this or having someone close to them suffer from it wouldn't name their damn lions what's killing their family. It's not just a name or a word, it's something that really shouldn't even be on this damn site in the first place beyond maybe sympathizing in chat about it.

I do think that a warning about it would be viable, not a ban, but more just a sort of 'hey this isn't allowed' sort of thing. I support this matter and I kinda hope that it'll be enforced more.

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ive updated the op if anyone wants to take a look

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Okay, so I've skimmed about half of the 17 pages of this. And am going to throw my two cents of an opinion in here.

1.) I understand that this topic is extremely sensitive for some people during this time.
2.) People are still people. They will name their lions what they wish. And it is not their fault that you got upset over it.
3.) This is a global pandemic. I get it. But in a few years time (hell even in a few months time after the virus has officially and finally run it's course), I bet you the name is gonna become common and people won't have an issue over it then. It's only an issue now because it's very, very current and it's plastered everywhere news wise

It seems this thread was made in response to a king being named after the current pandemic going on. And that the mods didn't find it offensive enough to do something about it. So doesn't that make this topic sorta useless to begin with? The mods seem to rule out that naming a lion after the virus isn't offense enough to do something about (I mean let's be honest there are worse names out there to a name a lion).

Out of the unnumbered amount of lions (kings, queens, lionesses, submales, cubs, adols, and frozens) here on Lioden.
4 Kings are named after the cornonavirus (with it being named "Coronavirus" or "COVID" or "COVID-19").
12 Pride lions are named after the coronavirus (with them being named "Coronavirus" or "COVID" or "COVID-19")
Please note I did not look up any other variation other then those names. That being said - that's an Incredibly small amount of lions to make this post over.

My next thing is. How can you tell if a player naming a lion after said virus; is doing it simply as a joke or simply because they can? As those are two very different things.
Also, on a broader scope, have any other disease type names been banned (or otherwise cracked down on) from the site because it upsets people this much? To my personal knowledge I don't think they have (and if there has been, then let me know). So then why is this an issue?

As a personal note to this - I am at risk of getting the virus myself. If I catch the virus - I'm a deadman. But I see no issue in why people can't name lions what they want to. It is after all, just a name. And this is after all, just a game. Avoid the name and move on if it upsets you.
Over all, while I get that some people are upset over this and I understand the reasoning behind it. I do not understand why the small number of players who have named their lions after the virus (for what ever reason they wanted to do so) should have to pay because ya'll are upset about it.

If this comes to anything, the mods should ask politely for the player to rename the lion. But I doubt it is going to come to that.

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Civillian, appropriately enough, has civilly summed up my thoughts on this matter, as well. It's just a game. If a handful of people name their lions something that upsets you, ignore them and move on with your life. Dwelling on it for long periods of time in an attempt to make them change to suit you isn't helping anyone.

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Yes, it's just a game, and meant to be an escape from real life. Ignoring it is not as easy as you'd think, especially considering that even if you block them, the lion's name can still pop up in leaderboards and during the May event; it is something we'd have to suffer through until either the mods take action and put an end to naming lions stuff like this, or people finally stop finding it "funny" to name their lions these things.

"But in a few years time (hell even in a few months time after the virus has officially and finally run it's course), I bet you the name is gonna become common and people won't have an issue over it then."
I heavily disagree. I cannot speak for absolutely everyone, but I know I will definitely still have an issue with it regardless of how long it's been; I will never find this funny or even remotely okay to do.

I feel with this suggestion we are simply asking for some compassion. It's insensitive to those suffering, and people are genuinely hurting because of the actions of people that try to justify their actions as "just joking."

"I do not understand why the small number of players who have named their lions after the virus (for what ever reason they wanted to do so) should have to pay because ya'll are upset about it."
Have to pay how? The suggestion is just for people to change their lion(s)'s name(s) to something more appropriate, it's not like they're going to get banned or something.

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I feel maybe an easier implementation would be for people to not be able to see the lions of the person they've blocked

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Okay but I repeat myself - How do you tell someone is naming their lion cornavirus to be funny or naming a lion simply because they can name it that? You really can't unless it's directed at you or unless you DM them and ask. And none of what I've seen has named their lion coronavirus to directly make fun anyone? They're just names.

I've seen suggestions from a warning to a strike to a nick in account standing. All of which, in my personal opinion, are extreme. There's no reason for it. And even if on some random chance some weird way to crack down on lions being named after diseases does get implemented - people are gonna find a way around it. And then what happens??

And if their lion pops up on a leader board or in May's event well that's nothing you can help though.
There's no "hey I don't wanna see this lion anymore" button. And perhaps as Creek has suggested maybe we need a tweak to the block button by allowing you to block a person and/or said lions altogether. That would solve this issue well I think.

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I agree with Civil and Creek, adjusting the block would fix all of this while allowing others to have the name they want, for whatever reason they want.

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@Civillian: While this does only account for one person, I did dm someone yesterday regarding their king name, "CoRoNaFlUfFeRs" (yes, with the capital letters in that way.) They confirmed that it was in regards to coronavirus and when I asked why, they simply responded with '"because I can" and said it was "for humor." This seems like a common attitude among people who use these names.

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Also, I don't think it matters if they named the lion that because they can or just two be funny. Because both of those reasons are extremely insensitive

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Sorry, no support.

While it is insensitive to name a lion after COVID because of the scale of its damage, it doesn’t make sense to ban all disease names on the basis that they’re real-world issues. Why not also make it an offense for lions to have death or murder related names, or natural disasters, since those are also real world issues that harm people?

There is starvation and disease in Lioden. As fun as this site is, I would hardly call it a safe space.

A lot of supporters have made the assumption that most players who names lions after disease is doing it to make fun or make light, which isn't a very reasonable assumption to make. As an analogy, if I were to name a lion Tsunami, that doesn’t mean I think real tsunamis are funny and drowning is not a problem. If I were to name a lion Amnesia, that doesn’t mean that I’m mocking humans with amnesia.

Some of you may find disease names offensive in the context of a game at all, which is understandable. But I frankly think it’s more offensive that there are commenters who compare this to the n word because that’s making light of the damage that slurs can do verbally. Disease names are not slurs, so they do not need to be treated the same way.

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There are actually people comparing it to the N-word? That's crazy. I do support but I don't think anyone should compare the Coronavirus to saying the N-word.

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