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Posted by | -STUCK- Feedback Request: New Layout |
Katze (#3) Heavenly View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-13 22:29:46 |
Quoted from the October Development Update #61: New Lioden LayoutWe previously shared a preview of a new layout that we had designed for Lioden's recode. There was a mixed reaction, and we've taken that on board. We went back to square one - we'd like to get your feedback on a new design that we've created, heavily inspired by the current layout - just spruced up a bit, and modernized to use more current web technology! Some Notes: * This is not the final iteration of the layout, it's a preview build - there may be minor issues that will be fixed, or things that we rearrange. Please don't worry about bug reporting or making suggestions for repositioning at this point - we're looking for feedback about how the layout as a whole feels to you! * This layout should be fully mobile responsive, including the lion images and their layers * We are about 99% of the way with color contrast accessibility, and the new accent colors (buttons, progress bars [hunger, energy, etc]) should be colorblind friendly. * Alerts can cause a problem due to very similar brightnesses so icons have been added to alerts to counteract any bad interactions with colorblindness. * Layout Preview Settings: At the bottom of the page there are two options for layout settings. * Text can be resized to your preference within a range. The current default text size (90%) is the most similar to Lioden's current text size. 100% will be the new default when this layout launches, but we will automatically set everyone who is a member at the time to 90% so it's less of a harsh adjustment right away. The plan is that when the layout is implemented, this will be a setting on your account that you can change at will. * The site's theme can be changed to the game's existing layout themes (Day/Default, Night and Desert) and there is a new Dark theme. We are still tweaking Dark theme, and it's important to note that Night and Desert are lower contrast themes and may cause accessibility issues. Preview a Lion Page View the Theme Elements Page Bonus: Landing Page (Xylax is unhappy about the age of the art we've used, it will be updated ;D) Please give any and all feedback within this topic! We may not be able to respond to all comments, but we will read everything and take your thoughts into account. UPDATE: Post by Abbey (#1) UPDATE 2: Post by Abbey (#1) 67 players like this post! Like? Edited on 14/10/23 @ 05:31:04 by a Moderator |
Myriad [mostly frozen] (#76) View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 06:40:28 |
Thanks for all your time with responses and willingness to make tweaks Abbey; I can't imagine how much work has gone into this behind the scenes. Looking so much better and more like a modern, responsive layout imo :) 3 players like this post! Like? |
Kit in a Box ~⚙️~ (#61637) View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 06:40:31 |
After looking at it on both mobile and desktop, I really like it. The only thing that I can see being an issue for me, personally, is getting used to the location of the Breeding Info being farther down. But that's really a minor thing and I think it's new location is better overall. I also would like to request a simple Biography on the Preview a Lion Page to see what it would look like and where it would appear, if possible. 1 player likes this post! Like? Edited on 14/10/23 @ 06:43:04 by Kit in a Box ~⚙️~ (#61637) |
Auris (#229394)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 06:42:55 |
Thank you so much for listening to our feedback!! The recode is shaping up to be really great and I'm glad there is great communication between devs & the playerbase for this!! 1 player likes this post! Like? |
velli (#213133)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 06:48:05 |
i think at the very least there should be an option to keep the current layout 5 players like this post! Like? |
Lavy (#323535)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 06:49:07 |
Now that changes have been made I’m still sorry to say it’s still to complicated and cluttered. It’s just too much information on one page, it’s still to similar to wolvden. The layout we have now is fine, don’t fix what’s not broken imo. 7 players like this post! Like? |
🎃 Jen O'Lantern 🎃 (#177530) View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 06:49:48 |
The new layout is definitely an improvement to the old layout, I'm glad the suggested logo has been binned and the design is overall more in line with the current one with more updates rather than complete rehauls. Landing page I think this layout seems more professional (once the art's updated) with the poster and then further information on scroll. The background colour is very dark and generally not nice to look at in my tastes. it clashes with the screenshots and makes things kinda hard to focus on. The placement of screenshots could do with a border to make them fit a bit more naturally Lion page I appreciate how things are more segmented- it makes things easier to read. I like the addition of the find a stud & reverse breed buttons, shouls make things more convenient! I agree what folk are saying in that the page looks more cluttered, I'm not sure how to fix this. I'm curious how the page looks for non-nursing lionesses, would the box colapse or stay how it is but with no current cubs? Theme Elements Page I'm assiming this is a pile of the elements to be used- its hard for me to really judge or get a feel for things without a context. I think the "Light" notification box is quite hard to see with some colour themes, same for the bottom cell row in the example table. These are pretty much all my notes on the current version! I've not seen prior updates cause I was sleeping but I'm much happier with this newly suggested update than the original from October 2020. It would be nice to have a 'retro mode' with the existing layout as a toggle-able option but I cant see how it could work without being a problem down the line 0 players like this post! Like? |
UnfocusedFord (They/Them) (#154286) View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 06:52:45 |
I'm pretty fond of it! It makes mobile viewing for me so much easier! 0 players like this post! Like? |
Wyvern | Shard ferus (#340820)
Demonic View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 06:55:32 |
I like the one we currently have. these are so crowded and it's hard to figure out and it's just making my ocd trigger. Just being brutally honest here i hate it. It's just way to crowded but I enjoy the effort you guys put into it and to try to make us happy! But I do really enjoy the landing page! It tells more about the game so people don't jump in the game blindly! But you didn't make it clear that it is an 16+ plus game, but as long as you and it id love the landing page but the others are just ick and crowded. 7 players like this post! Like? Edited on 14/10/23 @ 06:59:15 by Ash | penumbra Felis (#340820) |
Emmy (#319223)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 06:57:09 |
Ater ◼️ (#246672)
Warrior View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 06:57:26 |
Absolutely loving the new layout! I like the new buttons for Den/Crossroads/etc being accompanied by visualizing icons next to them, making them more distinguisheble from one another, which makes it easier to not misclick when you are busy IRL and doing things fast - having visualisations makes things easier than having to only read button names that are all in the same font. Different colors for the main lion's currents on the right side make them more distinguishable, you can tell your hunger or XP progress just by the color without a need to double-check the stat, making it easier especially for the new players. Also love the fact you can see your own king more often like this, when his image is right next to the currents. I also like that the event window shows the tier progress and the name of the event. Could also be useful to add which tier the bar is progressing for. All the information on the new lion page is groupped together so nicely, everything is more distint and easier to read, locate and access. Things like heritage now will take less space, and I like that the "former prides" link is in the same space instead of being next to who the lion currently belongs to (though I personally don't really see a point to that link at all, as it almost always misses the information about former prides that I know the lion belonged to). Would also be cool if the heritage button counted the lion's generation in parentheses, but that's already details. Also like that if a lion has more than a certain amount of markings, the window will be minimized and can be either scrolled or expanded, making the page less long and loaded. I'm however not exactly a fan of the decorations displaying their preview - that will take so mach space of the page if a lion has a lot of decors. I think it would be better to make their previews tiny, or make the equipped decorations window minimized and be able to be expanded, just like the markings window. I really like that the Secure/Unsecure button can be switched on and off with once click only. Regarding other actions, I think that people will be revealing fertility of their lionesses more often than adding new marking slots, so I think it could be better to switch places of the buttons. But IMO even better it would be to put the "Reveal 30 SB" button right next to the fertility, so the button will disappear once the fertility is revealed, so there won't be need to scroll all the way down, past all the decors, to reveal it. The securing button and marking slots cound be separated, the button being by itself on top, and the marking slots having a window below, being titled "Marking Slots", below "This lion has 10/20 markings slots.", and below that, the button "Add a Marking Slot 500 SB", that will disappear after the lion will have all 10 marking slots purchased, displaying "This lion has 20/20 markings slots." Just a suggestion! I'm however also not a fan of the "find a stud" and "reverse breed" buttons being right under the interaction buttons, because I personally hardly ever stud and don't reverse breed, so they will be there taking space for nothing to me, I much rather preffered the reverse breeding option being way down on the page. Finding a stud button will most likely indeed be very useful to the new players, but I would put both at least under heritage etc buttons (ideally replacing the former prides button, but that's just me of course). Unless those buttons will be appearing only when the lioness is in heat, then I don't have the issue with the placement. All the theme elements are very good, the dark theme is my favorite! Though I wish it had more cold colors like the night one, and kept the different colors for the main lion's currents, but that's just my personal preferences of course. The landing page is amazing! I bet it will drive in new players for sure, I like how it showcases more of what experiences the site has to offer. This game is amazing and relaxing to play, one of things that I like about it the most is that here's always something new to do even if you are playing for years, but the current main page the potential new players see doesn't show much of it all. In general, as a conclusion, to me the new layout looks more modern, more intuitive and accessibe, I'm very happy to see this upcoming update and can't wait for it to be implemented! Thank you for all your work and the desire to make the site even better than it already is. 2 players like this post! Like? |
Squid_Side [G1 Damu Nebulous] (#242794) Spicy View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 06:59:40 |
So, I’ve taken an extensive look at the page(s), and here are my opinions. I am on mobile. Pros: The color scheme looks pretty good. It’s calmer on the eyes, yet still is distinct enough so you’re not confused by buttons. The rounded edges look a bit better than the sharp edges we have at present. The font also looks very nice. I love the ability to see from the mothers page the cubs survival! I think that’s a good touch. I like the “import to wardrobe” buttons on any lion! I’d like it if there was 2 buttons, one with decor/background and one without. The heat cycle part is also nice, rather than “This lioness gave birth in the past two years. She is on a breeding cool down and will be breedable again in X real life days.” I like it either way, but removing a constant pop-up above my lion is a plus for me. Cons: I feel it’s much too cluttered. Being a mobile user, you have to scroll far too much to see everything. I personally also like being able to always see my energy/hunger/etc as a sidebar so I know when my energy gets refilled fully. It looks bigger and more in your face as well, even if it’s relatively the same size as it is now. I can’t tell. My eyes have to bounce all around the screen to find what I’m looking for, and with my adhd, I’m having a hard time pinpointing things. It’s also a huge, abrupt change all at once. All in all, I don’t really like it. I like the current style and layout more. 5 players like this post! Like? |
W!llow [G3 Thoth Corrupt] (#261589) Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 07:03:46 |
Terrinthia [G1, semi-frozen] (#97101) View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 07:08:15 |
I really like the changes that have been made since I checked it out earlier today. Definitely an improvement there. I'd like to see an Explore preview before I decide how I ultimately feel about this, but it would be great to not have to scroll so far down to see my king's Impression, EXP, etc. It's hard enough for me to remember to level it up when it reaches 100% as it is, lol. If it could fit somewhere up top... 2 players like this post! Like? Edited on 14/10/23 @ 07:08:43 by Terrinthia [G1 Jellyfish] (#97101) |
KojaTheDragon (#157994)
Bone Collector View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 07:19:39 |
A toggle between classic and new layout might be the way to go? I can see the appeal of the new one and why it's being implemented, but I would much prefer the current layout! 2 players like this post! Like? |
𝓒𝓸𝓻𝓻𝓾 𝓹𝓽𝓚𝓪𝓲 𝓳𝓾 (#246519) Lone Wanderer View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 07:21:52 |