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Caprini Inkcap (project) (#270756) UwU View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-02 12:30:02 |
Hi all!FAPA, or Feed All Play All is an accessibility tool being sold as a convenience in Oasis for 5gb per 30 days |
mousecouch🕷️ (#21960)
Buzzkill View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-04 07:34:15 |
Totally popping in here from left field, but I wonder if we could take FAPA and make it free/lower cost and have a premium version that includes FAPA, auto nesting, and auto leveling. That way you only have to pay one condensed price each month. You can get FAPA for free/1GB and the premium version including the other auto buttons for 5GB a month. ETA: I just realized auto nesting is 15GB a month, so this would have to work differently lol. 4 players like this post! Like? Edited on 04/08/24 @ 07:35:15 by mousecouch🕷️ (#21960) |
grassman 🌱 | project (#243884) View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-04 19:55:43 |
i do support this, and i think that having a free version of fapa and then a “premium” version of it would be nice. people have pointed out that 5gb is a small fee, and if it is then i’m sure lioden could support free access to fapa across the playerbase. as rover pointed out, not everyone can dedicate time and money to a game. i’m a teenager, and so obviously i can’t dedicate money to a free game for a simple accessibility feature. feeding your lions by hand is time consuming and tedious, and if you have a large pride it can easily get up to 30 minutes to an hour. addressing playing the game, there is no “way to play the game how it’s meant to be played”. lioden is a sandbox type game, where you the player can choose how to play the game, and if lioden did implement this feature, it wouldn’t be the first time lioden has made adjustments for accessibility. 4 players like this post! Like? |
mewflakes (#88492)
Maneater View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-04 19:56:19 |
premium services are premium for a reason. don't have the time, energy, or ability to feed a large amount of lions manually? buy FAPA or have a smaller pride. it is really not that difficult to obtain 5gb a month. lioden may be a free to play game, but it is also a play to win game. if you are active enough that you have hundreds of lions to interact with, you can surely make 5gb a month. if not, i feel like that is a bit of a personal issue. convenience perks shouldn't just be handed out because they are convenient. it's behind a paywall for a reason. i support the idea of players pitching in to help each other out. i think thats a nice thing. i don't support fapa being free for absolutely everyone. 4 players like this post! Like? Edited on 04/08/24 @ 20:05:16 by mewflakes (#88492) |
Vixxie | G1 13bo Stratosphere (#355386) Sapphic View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-04 20:21:45 |
I mean personally I don't think you should have to plan your life around a browser game stronger support now that i think about that- are people really planning their lives around lioden thats kind of funny 1 player likes this post! Like? |
🌸Knockout {Side}🌸 (#232957) Prince of the Savannah View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-04 20:50:09 |
You can feed/amuse out of stacks in your hoard, and it takes only marginally longer than feed all play all (FAPA is quicker if you don't have to organise who gets feed/doesn't, obviously) It will take longer if you pick and choose who to feed, but overall I find it an easy way to manage my pride, I can do both my 40-60 lion prides in 5-10 minutes I believe that an alternative that manages gb sinks and player interest would be enabling multiselect on lions for feeding out of stacks. This would allow you to have a stack of 50 uses, and then just pick which lions to feed So, FAPA is premium, you don't have to have the items, but there is a quick and easy way to feed/play without paying. 5 players like this post! Like? Edited on 04/08/24 @ 20:51:47 by 🌸Knockout {Side}🌸 (#232957) |
🗡️ LunarKnight (G1 Ennedi) (#151072) View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-04 21:01:04 |
🌸Knockout{Side}🌸 (#232957) I normally only use FAPA when I'm mass breeding for cubs to sell. During that time my only permanent lions are my sub and hunters. I like your suggestion. That I'll gladly support. They did multi select with nesting already. Something similar for food/amusement in hoard would be great! 2 players like this post! Like? |
Shadow (Main) (#73284)
Maneater View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-04 21:02:49 |
Just want to pop in and say a couple things. 1. FAPA only uses food items and not amusement items. Yes you still have to have food in your hoard to even be able to feed your lions. Amusement items are never touched. 2. I don't believe it is fair for this to be changed to Free. Think about all the players who might have purchased several months of FAPA. If it becomes free, will those players get refunded or will they be at a loss for that GB. 3. FAPA is something that offers more than you think. Everyone thinks it only helps with Feeding or Playing with your whole pride, but as others have said, FAPA also acts like a broodmother. Also want to state this: Did anyone know that Cubs/Adols do not run from starvation or mood? They can be starving or at 0% mood and they won't run until they turn 2 years old. So you don't have to feed every lion all the time. Players can feed only their adult lions and not worry about the cubs/adols. Also, another thing to keep in mind, you don't have to feed your lions daily. They don't run until they are at a certain mood/hunger. So feeding every 2-3 days is also recommended. 6 players like this post! Like? |
vertigoat 🦭 | 15BO vagabond (#120333) Maneater View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-04 21:06:25 |
"premium" fapa (costing 5gb) could have the continued use for free amusement, plus maybe combine it with autoleveling (2gb i believe), or as others have said, allow auto-feeding with a "premium" fapa to actually award stats / skull drops if it's a corresponding food item, opt out of feeding your king/specific lionesses, etc. i 100% believe the auto-feeding tool with fapa should just be free, as once you have a large enough pride it's essentially impossible to play without it. not to mention players with disabilities struggling to physically be able to feed that many lions. i have pretty bad wrist issues off/on and even if i had a quarter as many lions, i physically would not be able to feed that many 4 players like this post! Like? Edited on 28/08/24 @ 19:23:24 by vertigoat 🦤 | x2ros outlaw (#114297) |
Caprini Inkcap (project) (#270756) UwU View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-04 23:20:34 |
This suggestion is about adding more accessibility to lioden, I have paid for FAPA for months if not years myself and I Do Not Care if I get refunded if this was implemented, other aspects of FAPA not mentioned in the post are intentionally left out to focus on why the suggestion has been made.I'm really tired of real life arguments and economy arguments that AREN'T RELEVANT AT ALL5 players like this post! Like? |
Posted on 2024-08-05 08:22:35 |
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Jewel Wildmoon (#127341)
Deathlord of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-05 10:31:56 |
Honestly, I just want them to implement a setting where you can set caves as priority so lions in those caves will be fed first with FAPA. I don't mind sales lions running away due to hunger as long as my main lions stay 😅 4 players like this post! Like? |
🌙 Morrígra 🌙 [G1 Mazi RLC] (#33027) View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-05 15:56:27 |
I half support (for now I support cuz I'm unlikely to find this thread again in the future lol). I think a lot of things can be used to make the current UI a lot more accessible/user friendly Im.going to say this now, it used to be a lot easier to feed and play using toys. I don't want to be the like "i remember something others don't" so if anybody from pre 2018 agrees with me or can remember details please help me because I can't recall what it was, but I swear there was an easier way to feed everybody than sitting there going through each and every food item one at a time without FAPA. I lasted several months after coming back from a 5 year hiatus (2018/Jan 2019? To March 2023) before I said f that, my hands can't handle it, and started paying for FAPA. I know FAPA existed back then but if memory serves, it was a thing mostly used by people with 100+ lions, people that just didnt have the time to bother spending 20 something minutes plus feeding their lions. It used to take me maybe 5? Minutes to feed everybody, even at a full 40 lions per pride, 5 minutes to mass click and then be done. I think I raced against rollover once or twice after returning and it was taking me like 10+ -- On mobile, where it's ALWAYS been easier to feed from the hoard. Most of that time was spent clicking back and forth between food items over and over. Computer was impossible ,I ended up switching to just going to my pride's individual pages on computer, was taking me like half an hour for less than 40 lions. Somebody tell me if I'm crazy, but I swear something was easier back 5 years ago - maybe just the UI was easier? FAPA was a luxury, a convenience, not a near necessity like it is now, especially if you've got bad mobility 0 players like this post! Like? Edited on 05/08/24 @ 16:01:57 by 🌙 Morrígra 🌙 (#33027) |
Caprini Inkcap (project) (#270756) UwU View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-05 17:55:58 |
There was a series of minor UI changes that piled on eachother that make using items from stacks in the hoard damn near impossible with my crunchy hands and numbness during my 8 month ish hiatus and the previous year before it It takes multiple attempts and several hours to feed a pride of 40 from stacks for me, its not worth my time when theres so much other stuff I could be doing. Including working, to pay my bills. Yknow, like an adult. So I need FAPA to play at all. It doesn't feel like a luxury in the slightest, it feels like a curb cut. Especially becauae it provides no special benefits at all and has actually regularly screwed me out of items that do like honeycombs because the text is so small on the profile- especially on mobile. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Wolf & Ghostling 🌈🐯✨️ (#474664) King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-05 18:02:48 |
since we are talking about the UI, i want to add about my own mobile experience. i play on my tablet because lioden is a fun thing to focus on when sitting at my desk at the computer is too painful. when i feed and play with lions from their own individual pages, every time i hit either feed or play button, the page refreshes and takes me back to the very top. which means that for every lion i must scroll down, feed, scroll back down, play, scroll back up to hit the arrow to move on to the next lion. if i backspace to the cave to avoid scrolling back up on the lion page, i have to scroll back down because the cave page is also always loaded at the top. it is frustrating and very painful on my fingers. i have hypermobility and this kind of motion is the most likely kind to dislocate my finger joints. (this also happens with the explore button. i have to keep scrolling back down to see every encounter. explore-heavy events have been hell on my hands) 2 players like this post! Like? |
☆☃️Snuhman🪼 ☆ g1 ambro VESSO (#244875) View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-05 18:31:24 |
Genuinely think this would just take the challenge away from what it means to have big prides. This comes from someone who always has over 50 lions, who has wrist pains due to drawing AND seriously cannot live w/o fapa. Yet, hear me out, having a large pride IS a challenge, if you cannot afford fapa to go along with that challenge, perhaps lower the amount of lions inside your pride? It may make your lioden experience much less stressful and better for you overall :) Sorry, but a no support from me 3 3 players like this post! Like? |