Posted by -LOCKED - -ADDED TO THE GAME-[All/Apr] No Donations.

Heda Vampiric (#56702)

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2018-04-03 14:52:27

HadToRemakeThisThread.SorryGuys

Okay. So. Donations. They need to go. They just cause user discourse and a lot of people do not like them. This issue currently only applies to April, but "We are starting with lower numbers to introduce the feature but will gradually increase over later months while you guys get used to it." from the news post suggests donation tiers will be added to other events.It also suggests that whatever price is asked now, next time it will be more. This is a no-no.

This solution focuses only on April, but can be applied anywhere they might want to add a donation spot. The solution will work as follows:

1. Change the donated bar to a gathered bar
2. Make it so you pay a once per event fee to use the features unlocked in the bar (Example: 75 Eggs to age or deage your male).
3. There is no more user discourse since to get the currency to spend you have to gather.

Some people are fine with the personal goals, but want the sitewide goal to be gone. That is the same as buying the feature. Just stop calling it donations. Remove the sitewide goal (/change it to a gather goal), call it a purchase, and that's all.

So;
- Remove Aprils donation function as explained above
- Don't add donation functions to other events if that was indeed planned.
---> *Some noted that it may not be "donations" added to other events but still personal bars. No. Don't add personal bars either. This feature needs a 100% scrap.



Please don't come up in here if you're just going to call casual players lazy.~


Suggestion for Date-Opened Tiers + Solutions to replace what the tiers supposedly do: [Finny]




This suggestion has 315 supports and 33 NO supports.



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Edited on 16/03/19 @ 03:21:33 by a Moderator

Heda Vampiric (#56702)

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Posted on
2018-04-03 14:52:46

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Heda Vampiric (#56702)

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Posted on
2018-04-03 14:52:53

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Finnegan II (#85926)


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Posted on
2018-04-03 14:55:48
Supported. Sorry about your thread troubles.



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Torquil (#53504)

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Posted on
2018-04-03 15:00:24
I am a fairly active player.
My work allows me to access Lioden throughout the day, so I am generally able to spend my energy pretty reliably throughout the day.

To access all three tiers, it’s 150EE.
As an active player, that is approximately three days worth of event currency.

And admins are considering this amount to be low. I can only imagine the impact on casual players.

I know the egg den is optional, but admins plan to introduce it to other events. How long before it becomes mandatory to access shops? To fully enjoy the event?

You have my support, of course.



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Ranjit (#3581)

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Posted on
2018-04-03 15:11:14
Poor Heda's thread. Supported again. Bless what Torquil said too for that matter.



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Korb (#2663)

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Posted on
2018-04-03 15:19:21
support, this would be a real drag if it was added to more events



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Bezthiel 🍉 (#81210)

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Posted on
2018-04-03 15:23:49
Would be especially nice if combined with that suggestion I've seen floating around to have tiers open on specific dates. For instance, for April the fountain opens on the 22nd no matter what, but you have to pay 75+ eggs to use it.

Removing donations would turn it from an inter-community fight into the same decision that players have to make with every event- "Which thing do I want to buy?"



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Finnegan II (#85926)


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Posted on
2018-04-03 15:24:50
"Would be especially nice if combined with that suggestion I've seen floating around to have tiers open on specific dates."

I'm actually in the middle of writing this suggestion thread. I'll let you know when it's up. Should be shortly.



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🅱️oneless (#123346)


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Posted on
2018-04-03 15:27:30
For sure. If they continue this, then they need to drastically lower prices within the tiers of all events.



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EntityofSilo | G4 (#107570)

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Posted on
2018-04-03 15:29:44
I was behind by two tiers because of this. I'm really sick of having to fill a personal donation bar that I can't afford to fill. At this point I should just quit participating in this event because of the amount of times I've hit 0 easter eggs. I'm there right now, I was there days ago, and every time I find even one egg I have to donate it to see the tier that should be unlocked for me already. I can't afford to donate this many eggs and the fact that I'll have to donate even more in the future is really just stupid. It took me days to save up to get 12 easter eggs-- am I really expected to not buy anything from the event shops and just put all of them into unlocking a tier that has already opened?! This is ridiculous. I get that it's to help unlock the tiers faster but this is destroying everything about the event. I can't finish my storyline quests because I can't get easter eggs. I can't see any of the unlocked tiers. I can't buy anything from the shops because I'm ridiculously poor from 'donations.' Donations are supposed to be optional, not forced. If this spreads to the other events I'm going to quit participating in all of them.



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JaxHammer [Retiring] (#103364)

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Posted on
2018-04-03 15:35:46
I think we should kill this in it's Crib. Like Torquil said, it's only a matter of time before it gets worse.



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Blue Pigeon 🐦 (#68580)

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Posted on
2018-04-03 15:36:52
Support. People have had issues with April's donation gimmick from the moment it was made and I certainly do not want it spreading to other events, even in its current form. Not to mention that for a long time now tiers have nearly always been edited as our progress is either too fast or too slow, and I can see a lot of resentment brewing if this is also applied to donation based tiers as players will get discouraged if tiers are changed to an almost impossible amount (as has happened multiple times in the past) and users will feel cheated if they feel that they didn't need to donate as much event currency as they did in order to open the tier.

I personally don't need or desire the Donation rewards this event and as such don't donate my eggs but this has the direct result of making it harder for someone who does want it. Why should users have to depend on other users also wanting certain items/mechanic in order to get benefits from their donated event currency? And as the initially low numbers increase, so too will ill will between users grow in the community.



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Edited on 03/04/18 @ 15:41:48 by Blue Pigeon 🐦 (#68580)

Fauve (CL Ferus -
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Posted on
2018-04-03 15:49:22
I've pledged my support!



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JaxHammer [Retiring] (#103364)

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Posted on
2018-04-03 15:50:47
I think the ill will will be mostly directed at the staff for forcing us into this. If this spreads to other events, I will simply not partake in them.

You already have us breaking our eggs, even in encounters that only give you ONE egg, making that particularly encounter useless. Now you want us to donate what doesn't break? No pun intended, but give me a goddamn break.



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Karmo (#98909)

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Posted on
2018-04-03 15:51:32
Support.
My eggs dropped below 100 just by donating. I really hate it.



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