I've received reports they've adjusted numbers here, in this event. I haven't kept an eye out ofc because I'm not planning to donate ever, but apparently the first tier was jumping from 35, to 37 to 75 or something. Dunno.

Anyway, by that I mean when staff drives the tier numbers too high and won't drive them back down until 500+ users say "hey can you maybe not please and thank you". February is a good example. I made a thread that was pretty active last month when that 2 million reveal came out, expressing concerns that HEY maybe this is too high? My rule of thumb is that if Tier 3 isn't open by day 25, the numbers are too high and need to be brought down.

And I can't view chat, so I wouldn't have seen this. Still, it's an effort went it really doesn't need to be and shouldn't be, especially with Staff constantly throwing it back in our face by moving the goalpost whenever we're going to fast for their taste.

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From what I've seen this event was 35-75-150 if I recall, that's total though. At 35 donated you get tier 1 at 75 total (so 40 more?) Tier 2. Again it's picking and choosing.
And i wasn't here unfortunately in February so not knowing, I cannot say. However, 2 points to be made.
1. If the staff does notice users struggling, they adjust.
2. I've seen people (granted more then a year ago) complain when.... I forget what event it was but the numbers "were high," and the staff didn't adjust... people were annoyed by the last tier not getting opened till like... it was only the 17th of the month or something. Anyway personal stories aside

Maybe the number adjustments will go down and they'll be able to find a steadier pace with players pitching into donation bars when it's required btw... not all events have hard tiers to unlock. Also a problem with your time base openings.... what about the event in July and the raffle event lions? Or the studs in... September I think, I'm not sure. But if it's time based then those events would have less time and less opportunity in those tiers. Even with staff adjustments it's usually faster then what's being suggested.... usually.

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1. Not all the time they don't. Sometimes they are perfectly content to leave us to deal with their screwups. Apparently, we didn't open the Primordial Spring in 2015 or the Sacrificial stone. We only got 2 days of it last year because they didn't listen to us. This february they probably wouldn't have helped if a friend of mine hadn't made the thread saying "hey, 750,000 is kinda ridiculous, maybe STOP please".

That's just two events, and im sure adjustments can be made.

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I wasn't here for that but I'm thinking that since the personal donation is kinda new maybe it'll balance out the high numbers a bit. For now though I'm sticking to my opinion. It sounds more like an issue with tier requirements then personal donations at this point.

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I support.

As someone who isn't extremely active this month and someone who has been through 3 other April events, this donation bar is a decent idea but it was executed poorly. the only reason I was able to unlock up until tier two was because of left over currency from last year. For a month that the encounters only give out 1 or 2 eggs with the chance of those eggs breaking, which is happening more often than not, 150 is too much.

150 eggs is three of the most expensive item in the shop. Not everyone is a hardcore active on the site. If there was a way the feature could be adjusted to scale to the amount of eggs you are gathering, something like you have to donate 15% or so of the eggs you gather that would be fine. But right now it isn't working out for a majority of people.

I also like the idea of making the extras like the primordial spring cost eggs. I think that would be a better way than this donation bar, that way people who only want the springs or even if someone only wanted the NCLs to appear in explore then maybe that would be a better compromise? Because then people are actually paying for what they want to use instead of having to "donate" just to be able to see the tiers. Then they could make certain features more expensive etc...

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I'm on board with the donations as long as there's no global requirement to open the same thing. One or the other, having both solves NONE of the problems we've had. And the donations should ONLY be for extras, never for the shops, which I believe would be best on a timed release. I like the idea of having to donate something other than event currency as well, it would offset a lot of tension imo.

All of this BS has been an ongoing problem for years, and if something is a problem for years, the staff NEEDS to acknowledge it and actually FIX IT. No ifs, ands, or buts. All they've been doing is putting band-aids on bullet holes, and it's not working. The system needs a total overhaul if it's going to get better.

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I used to be a casual player, but recently got promoted at work (yay me) and now work full-time plus my small part time job so now im really limited as to how many hours I can get on. Since the beginning of this event I've collected 57 eggs all of which have been donated. I kinda wonder if its even worth really participating in this months event anymore...

So a few players would piggy back in previous years, we also only would pull in like what a 100e.c.? We pick one thing that hopefully will pull in GB later and save the rest for next year. Just because we are casual players does NOT mean we are lazy, as has been said above, most casual players are adults and busting our balls IRL and want to just relax on LD.

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"Maybe when the numbers were changed sure a bit of disappointment but i also remember party times in chats because the next tier was unlocked by their hard work too."

Y'know how when Sisyphus finally gets that rock to the top of the hill, he'll party himself blind? That's what the "celebration" is whenever I join in the happy-times after a tier unlocks. It's not so much "YAY SHOP" as "OMFG FINALLY IT'S OVER!"

Also, bunny shop Tier 2, just this month, went from 750k required to unlock to 1mil required to unlock. It was, frankly, irritating, but I don't think anyone even really noticed because everyone's been so worried about the donations. I'm not participating in donations, so that was fucking terrible and I noticed.

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"Also, bunny shop Tier 2, just this month, went from 750k required to unlock to 1mil required to unlock. It was, frankly, irritating, but I don't think anyone even really noticed because everyone's been so worried about the donations."

I noticed that as well. =\ I'm really not excited to see what the Tier 3 goal is gonna be.

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Tier 2 is going to be another 2 million goal probably and we're going to struggle to reach it again, probably

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Support, it's just too grindy to work for most people.

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I noticed a few people might be missing the extent of my suggestion. It isn't just to remove the newly added personal donations. It is to completely irraditcate donations. No more personal goal, no more site wide goal. Instead it would be an "eggs gathered" goal (it could be something else but there isn't much else. Maybe a low "hare points gathered" goal to encourage wenet questing) - and the previous donation features would be purchasable once their tier opens instead. That way you are Guaranteed Whatever you pay for. And you can pay for one, two, or all. If I use 150 as a total (flexible number), you could pay 50 to unlock a single feature of your choosing, 100 for two, or 150 for all three. My suggestion is not a target just personal goals, but the entire donation system as it is one of the greatest causes of conflict we have this month.

I would also like to point out that the staff clearly stated that the goals we were given this time around are "low" so that the user base may adjust to the new feature, since as Jax said, they like to just drop stuff in our lap. All the people struggling this year? If we have this feature still next year and the staff up the numbers - they'll be even more fucked.

Another item, all the people who are telling others not to donate if they don't like the items? That hurts those who donate. Since the personal goals are linked to the global goals, you could be donating for the primordial spring and never use it if we fail to open it. All those eggs - for shit.we made it this year, while things were low for us to adjust, but what about next year? They have denied us the spring before, they will do it again. It is yet another aspect that pits the user base against itself. With that comes the solution of just iradicating the personal donations since at that point it's the only donations you're counting for. At that point you're not donating, you're buying. Call it what it is.

And, if I may add, we struggled just last month to unlock the final tier because staff bumped the bar too high did we not?

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2,500,000.

Well.

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Just did the math.

About 1700 people need to get about 30 hare points every single day for us to open tier 3 on the very last day of the event.

Side note: I seem to get 5 - 10 hare points per explore, so all 1700 of those people will need to explore a full 3 - 6 times per day.

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Donating eggs are pretty awesome and easy to do so! You just need to focus on donating eggs for four days or more, and then focus on saving up and hare points after :D so I'm not supporting this. Plus events are supposed to be hard and everyone work together not THAT easy. I am not big fan of decors and but still fun to donate.

Don't expect lioden to be very very easy when you have One entire month to complete the event which is why the points are higher last month but we managed to completed it anyways^^^

Plus, its donation anyways, you don't have to donate while bunny shop is available for you

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