-LOCKED - Discussion: Raffle Lionesses
Posted on 2024-08-05 08:57:00
We are aware of some issues that the community has been voicing with the raffle lioness system, with some complaints including it being difficult to pass on raffle-exclusive traits, raffle lionesses going to inactive accounts, and so on. We have had our own discussion among the developers and would now like to present a discussion where the community can provide feedback on the ideas we have outlined below regarding how the system can be modified, and possibly even give their own ideas if they aren't already covered.

We will be closely monitoring this topic to record feedback, which we will then use for an upcoming site poll.


New Features Being Implemented

We have some features that will be added regardless of feedback within a future update:

New Features We May Implement


* Adjusting the raffle lioness system so that only players who have been active in the last two days (so Wednesdays onward) will have a chance to win when the raffle lioness is pulled
* Sending an email notification to the player who won the weekly raffle lioness


New Features We're Considering/Discussing

These are features we have had ideas for, or have found in the Game Development forums, and would like to see which of the following would be most preferred.

** 1. Storing raffle lioness designs and releasing them slowly through explore.
Essentially, this would mean creating multiple copies of the same raffle lioness to be slow-dripped into the game through the claiming system. They would work as chased lionesses, so only kings with Average impression or higher could find them. This would likely come with a failsafe so that if the lioness fails to be claimed, she goes back into the chased pool so another player has a chance to claim her. All raffle lionesses are made with the Nurturing (Good) personality, so raffle lionesses released through the claiming system would display the Good pose.

The first week, Raffle Lioness 1 is pulled and sent to the winner, and Raffle Lioness 2 is put up to be impressed. The second week, Raffle Lioness 2 is pulled and sent to the winner, Raffle Lioness 3 is put up to be impressed, and a clone of Raffle Lioness 1 is put into the chased lioness pool in explore. The third week, Raffle Lioness 3 is pulled and sent to the winner, Raffle Lioness 4 is put up to be impressed, and clones of Raffle Lionesses 1 and 2 are put into the chased pool in explore. This repeats up to a maximum of 9 clones, making for 10 total lionesses with the same design.

A graph to show the overall release schedule for raffle lionesses through explore.
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** 2. Releasing an identical replica raffle stud alongside a raffle lioness.
The stud would have the exact same traits as the raffle lioness, but rather than being delivered to a winner's territory, a select amount of players (between 20-50) would win the ability to breed with him. This would work similarly to August's event studs in that items could not be used on the stud for breeding. We also considered, if implementing replica studs, to allow all players to enter for a chance to win a stud breeding, but lock weekly raffle lionesses so that only accounts that have 365 or more total rollovers (not consecutive) would be eligible to try and impress her.


** 3. Implementing raffle studs in general.
An alternative to releasing an identical replica raffle stud would be releasing a raffle stud alongside a raffle lioness who may share similar traits, e.g. if a raffle lioness is releasing a brand new eye colour, the raffle stud that week would have that eye colour as well, or if she is releasing a brand new raffle marking, the raffle stud that week would have that marking as well (either in the same slot, or a different slot). Breedings to this stud would also be limited to 20-50 players weekly, and items would not be allowed. This would also come with all players being able to enter for a chance to win a stud breeding, but locking weekly raffle lionesses so that only accounts that have 365 or more total rollovers (not consecutive) would be eligible to try and impress her.


** 4. Releasing more than one raffle lioness per week.
This would either be multiple identical copies of the same raffle lioness, or up to 3 different raffle lionesses at once who would share some of the same traits, but not be identical.


** 5. Releasing recreated copies of previous raffle lionesses who are on banned/closed accounts.
This would be making a replica of the raffle lioness to raffle off through the official raffle system. The original raffle lioness would stay on the same account. This is specifically only for permanently suspended accounts, and accounts that have been closedโ€”not inactive accounts that are not suspended/closed.


** 6. Allow the weekly raffle lioness to be impressed daily instead of once weekly for higher chances of winning, therefore rewarding more active players.
The weekly raffle lioness would still be available for a full week as usual, but daily impression attempts will add up and give a greater chance at winning her as compared to only one attempt per week (how it currently works).


** 7. Add a second raffle lioness for players who have rolled over at least 365 times in total (not consecutively), with potentially more unique traits than a standard Dreamboat raffle lioness.
Players who have rolled over 365 or more times would have the ability to impress both the standard Dreamboat raffle lioness, as well as a second raffle lioness that is only available to accounts with 365+ total rollovers.





We may mix-and-match some of the options, but we will be polling the community on these options regardless.

If you have any ideas or suggestions that were not listed above, we would appreciate your input and highly encourage you to provide a detailed response within this news post!

We will be deleting any comments that do not actually contribute to the discussion.



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Edited on 05/08/24 @ 10:34:29 by Katze (#3)

Ari._.Loves._.You (#304120)

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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:09:02
I really like the idea of the RLC being a Chased! I personally hate how I have to be a dreamboat and miss lots of RLs!
I really like these ideas and I would be very happy to see this come into the game!!



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2024-08-05 09:09:03
I think a combo of options 1, 2 and 6 would be a good direction to go in. But I do agree that if clone(s) of the RL girl are released through the chase pool, there should be something to distinguish them both from the RL and other chased lionesses.

Raffle studs is the option I like most, however. A single design, in both sexes, should make it a lot easier to spread unique traits!



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2024-08-05 09:09:04
These are all super fun ideas! The only one I have real beef with is waiting a year to be able to tempt a raffle lioness. It kinda makes sense to keep them off inactive accounts, but someone who's been playing for a year could lose interest just as quick as someone who's been playing for a week.

Raffle stubs tho



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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:09:16
We've definitely needed something to prevent them from going to inactive accounts!

All of these would definitely help with issues people are having, especially since some folk like to keep the lioness completely to themselves (which imo is totally okay since it's your lion if you win) and people lose out on an opportunity to get the new markings/eyes/etc.



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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:09:22
I love this idea!



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2024-08-05 09:09:22
I love 1, ,5 6, and 7!



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2024-08-05 09:09:23
I really like the idea of having it be that you can impress the raffle lioness several times a week, and I also live the idea of there being several copies of the same lioness won. However, I know it would be an oxymoron to give out too many, so I'd say 2-3 max for how many were up for raffle.



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2024-08-05 09:09:45
Id love to see the stud one



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2024-08-05 09:09:55
Wow!! This would definitely benefit the pool of people getting Raffle lionesses better.
I find from 3-7 would be great implementations, especially the opportunity for more active players to recieve raffle studs/lionesses whereas it might go to an inactive/banned account.

Iโ€™m just curious though, would the system change at all? If the majority of people wanting to claim a raffle lioness are all the active ones, would that make the pool of players smaller? Which in turn means a higher chance of someone whoโ€™s already gotten a raffle lioness recieve another one? Or would you guys make it so that at least everybody gets to have a fair chance to at least win one so that there isnโ€™t any unfair advantages? (Like for example the claiming everyday for a week to increase your odds of claiming the raffle lioness)
Just curious!



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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:10:22
I find number two or three to be nice! It's frustrating when raffle lionesses are the only way to get a new eye color/mane color/marking etc and the player who gets it doesn't allow it to spread.

Number 5 also sounds great. There's a lot of raffle lionesses that didn't have their time to shine due to going to dead accounts.




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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:10:54
I'm on the edge with some of the suggestions but there are a few I think would be incredibly helpful. Namely the following:

#4 Releasing multiple lionesses. I personally think these should be multiple different lionesses but with shared rare traits (eg. all three have the same rare mark in slot 6) so each lioness remains valuable in her own right but the traits get spread

#5 Ideal if the RL is on a banned or closed account - but not just an inactive account in my opinion

#7 Amazing idea to support longer-term members while also adding a new way to spread RL traits


Personally, I don't think the options to tackle RLs going to dead accounts are particularly needed simply because most people who bother to enter are still probably going to be active. So while daily impressing etc could be a thing, it's not necessarily tackling the major crux of the issue of accounts that go inactive later on.

I also think the first idea about wednesday onwards is incredibly unfair as it would fully restrict accounts used for freezing from being used. Similarly - and more worryingly - people who only ever played at the weekend etc would be locked out of the draw.

That's my two penneth for now



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Edited on 05/08/24 @ 09:11:49 by Dier ~ G1 Harlequin x7 Ros (#80015)

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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:11:26
i think this might be my first time commenting on a news post but here goes lol

to be honest, i really don't like any of these ideas EXCEPT for locking the lioness raffle to accounts of a year or older.
the main reason for this is, personally, i feel like it wouldn't be as special.
as it is now, when you win the raffle, you are THE winner! that's SO special! but if we make multiple of the lioness, or create more G1 clones by releasing them in explore, it's just.. not as special. being ONE OF the winners isn't as nice as being THE winner. not to say they're bad ideas! this is just how i personally feel about it.
as for the idea of raffle studs.. i do think it's cool, but it might also have a similar issue of making raffle lioness markings more common. i honestly don't mind this idea as much, though i don't think the studs should be an exact copy of the raffle lioness - they should have rare instead of special bases, less markings, etc. to make the lioness still the most special there is.
i understand some people might be upset at how hard it is to win an RL - trust me, i've been there, i've fallen in love with SO MANY raffle lionesses that i still can't even get a clone of. and that's okay! they're supposed to be special. in fact, i think that going through many raffles and not winning boosts the experience. frustrating? yeah. but it makes it so much more rewarding if you do finally win!
i also don't really think daily raffles would be a good idea.. but i think maybe, if any changes, the 1 year and older account rule is good, and MAYBE implementing 2 lionesses at a time (who are different) but in the same week, just to boost the odds of someone getting any raffle lioness without diluting the value of each individual lioness.
i hope this makes sense and i'm sorry if anything i say comes off as rude! it isn't my intention at all, i just want to put my opinion here since it is a discussion ^^



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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:11:44
I'm fond of ideas 3, 5, and 7. Daily raffle lionesses seems a bit overkill and having the identical stud seems less interesting than having a unique accompanying stud. Multiple raffle lionesses and the explore raffle lionesses... I don't know, they just don't interest me as much as the other possibilities.
Idea 3: Raffle studs just seem cool, particularly if your king is good but not goodlooking.
Idea 5: Yeah, if a banned/abandoned account has raffle lionesses we should get another crack at impressing them.
Idea 7: I strongly approve of rewarding your longstanding players with neat things just for them.



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โ€ Tesurii โ€ (#66342)

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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:12:00
Ideas 1,2,5 and 7 are all very interesting to me.

Alright, after seeing the reactions and mulling it over these few hours, I think #2 may the best option moving forward. Everyone still gets a chance at a raffle lioness but they also get chances to a similar raffle stud slot.
* Keeping the tradition of a raffle lioness will keep the fun of there being one alive and keep RL fans happy.
* A similar themed stud with limited slots would give extra chances for unique raffle traits to be injected into the game. This way the traits can still potentially pass around and whoever wins the RL can private her or whatever.

#7 could also be a fun add-on on TOP of adding option #2.
Rewarding veteran players who have dedicated at least one year of login time with a separate unique RL (maybe with a new tier of markings, whether those just be unique colorways of pre-existing markings or something entirely new?) would be a nice gift for dedication to the site. Though it may need a slot stud, too.



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Edited on 05/08/24 @ 16:45:00 by โ€ Tesurii โ€ (#66342)

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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:12:06
I love all these ideas honestly I used to try every week to impress the rl then gave up because it seemed like a lost cause, with any of these changes I'd be interested in participating again



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Edited on 05/08/24 @ 17:38:15 by Aura/Starfall (#209015)



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