-LOCKED - Discussion: Raffle Lionesses
Posted on 2024-08-05 08:57:00
We are aware of some issues that the community has been voicing with the raffle lioness system, with some complaints including it being difficult to pass on raffle-exclusive traits, raffle lionesses going to inactive accounts, and so on. We have had our own discussion among the developers and would now like to present a discussion where the community can provide feedback on the ideas we have outlined below regarding how the system can be modified, and possibly even give their own ideas if they aren't already covered.

We will be closely monitoring this topic to record feedback, which we will then use for an upcoming site poll.


New Features Being Implemented

We have some features that will be added regardless of feedback within a future update:

New Features We May Implement


* Adjusting the raffle lioness system so that only players who have been active in the last two days (so Wednesdays onward) will have a chance to win when the raffle lioness is pulled
* Sending an email notification to the player who won the weekly raffle lioness


New Features We're Considering/Discussing

These are features we have had ideas for, or have found in the Game Development forums, and would like to see which of the following would be most preferred.

** 1. Storing raffle lioness designs and releasing them slowly through explore.
Essentially, this would mean creating multiple copies of the same raffle lioness to be slow-dripped into the game through the claiming system. They would work as chased lionesses, so only kings with Average impression or higher could find them. This would likely come with a failsafe so that if the lioness fails to be claimed, she goes back into the chased pool so another player has a chance to claim her. All raffle lionesses are made with the Nurturing (Good) personality, so raffle lionesses released through the claiming system would display the Good pose.

The first week, Raffle Lioness 1 is pulled and sent to the winner, and Raffle Lioness 2 is put up to be impressed. The second week, Raffle Lioness 2 is pulled and sent to the winner, Raffle Lioness 3 is put up to be impressed, and a clone of Raffle Lioness 1 is put into the chased lioness pool in explore. The third week, Raffle Lioness 3 is pulled and sent to the winner, Raffle Lioness 4 is put up to be impressed, and clones of Raffle Lionesses 1 and 2 are put into the chased pool in explore. This repeats up to a maximum of 9 clones, making for 10 total lionesses with the same design.

A graph to show the overall release schedule for raffle lionesses through explore.
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** 2. Releasing an identical replica raffle stud alongside a raffle lioness.
The stud would have the exact same traits as the raffle lioness, but rather than being delivered to a winner's territory, a select amount of players (between 20-50) would win the ability to breed with him. This would work similarly to August's event studs in that items could not be used on the stud for breeding. We also considered, if implementing replica studs, to allow all players to enter for a chance to win a stud breeding, but lock weekly raffle lionesses so that only accounts that have 365 or more total rollovers (not consecutive) would be eligible to try and impress her.


** 3. Implementing raffle studs in general.
An alternative to releasing an identical replica raffle stud would be releasing a raffle stud alongside a raffle lioness who may share similar traits, e.g. if a raffle lioness is releasing a brand new eye colour, the raffle stud that week would have that eye colour as well, or if she is releasing a brand new raffle marking, the raffle stud that week would have that marking as well (either in the same slot, or a different slot). Breedings to this stud would also be limited to 20-50 players weekly, and items would not be allowed. This would also come with all players being able to enter for a chance to win a stud breeding, but locking weekly raffle lionesses so that only accounts that have 365 or more total rollovers (not consecutive) would be eligible to try and impress her.


** 4. Releasing more than one raffle lioness per week.
This would either be multiple identical copies of the same raffle lioness, or up to 3 different raffle lionesses at once who would share some of the same traits, but not be identical.


** 5. Releasing recreated copies of previous raffle lionesses who are on banned/closed accounts.
This would be making a replica of the raffle lioness to raffle off through the official raffle system. The original raffle lioness would stay on the same account. This is specifically only for permanently suspended accounts, and accounts that have been closedβ€”not inactive accounts that are not suspended/closed.


** 6. Allow the weekly raffle lioness to be impressed daily instead of once weekly for higher chances of winning, therefore rewarding more active players.
The weekly raffle lioness would still be available for a full week as usual, but daily impression attempts will add up and give a greater chance at winning her as compared to only one attempt per week (how it currently works).


** 7. Add a second raffle lioness for players who have rolled over at least 365 times in total (not consecutively), with potentially more unique traits than a standard Dreamboat raffle lioness.
Players who have rolled over 365 or more times would have the ability to impress both the standard Dreamboat raffle lioness, as well as a second raffle lioness that is only available to accounts with 365+ total rollovers.





We may mix-and-match some of the options, but we will be polling the community on these options regardless.

If you have any ideas or suggestions that were not listed above, we would appreciate your input and highly encourage you to provide a detailed response within this news post!

We will be deleting any comments that do not actually contribute to the discussion.



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Edited on 05/08/24 @ 10:34:29 by Katze (#3)

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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:12:07
Are we going to be able to choose multiple options on the poll? There are multiple really great ones presented.



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Rogue (#86933)

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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:12:08
If the copies of raffle lionesses that are unobtainable are done I think it'd also be cool to see old RL lines that died before collecting and copying RLs was super popular come back into rotation!



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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:12:20
Really hoping for the drip feed of RL through the chased system! That would be awesome.

I don’t know about having multiple chances to impress a lioness per week - I like the equal opportunity of only one ticket per account



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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:12:23
Love the idea of raffle lionesses more likely to go to active accounts. Impressing daily to increase odds is great.



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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:12:30
I love 1, 4, 5, and 6!!!



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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:12:34
big fan of these ideas, would love to see them implemented, it seems more fun that more players will now have a chance to enjoy the exclusive traits and lions this offers



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Alchemist_Albedo (#254900)

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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:12:45
So wait i have a question about the 7th point thats been brought up. is it 365 CONSECUTIVE rollovers? or 365 in total? and would we be able to get some sort of counter for that? if its not consecutive



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2024-08-05 09:13:09
I would like changes but to only future ones, nothing involving old ones. Let people have their old private lines that they paid money for or won.



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Edited on 05/08/24 @ 09:14:56 by Lavy (#323535)

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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:13:11
The more I think about it the more that rule that's being implemented for Wednesday onwards sounds like it will cause so many problems. I can't believe how unfair that would be for people who potentially work in the week / are at school / etc. Doesn't impact me personally as I roll my main every day but I feel so sorry for anyone who doesn't roll on Wednesday and Thursday, that's so mean in my opinion.



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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:13:19
I love first idea, but I have some input for it!
First is I think it should be separate pool like special explore NCLs, available only to Dreamboats. It makes no sense the raffle is locked for Dreamboats but clones are available for Average+.

Also I suggest making the NCL clones appear only to those who entered for the actual raffle lioness! That way it will minimize the chance of unaware newbies just scrolling past a lioness without realising what it is; people who entered the raffle would know what she looked like and would be aware to be careful when claiming. A failsafe of returning to the chased pool is good, but I think it would be better to reward activity for those who actually entered for her raffle counterpart!
Plus this way, it can track if you have claimed a clone like this before or not; a ticket for past raffle lioness could be "pulled out" if you claim a clone, so that you can no longer find more clones of the same raffle lioness in the following weeks! That would prevent people from getting 2+ copies of the same raffle lioness; only their tickets to other raffle lionesses will remain, allowing them a chance of finding another clone, but not the 2nd copy of a same clone.



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Edited on 05/08/24 @ 09:19:16 by Mad Hyena (#29080)

mars {majivu nrlc} (#473132)

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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:13:23
editing bc i've been thinking more on this!

my top 2 picks from these options are dropping a copy of the rl into the ncl pool, and having the rl studs, i think this helps prevent a rl getting put on an account/being made private/potentially not cloning and helps give the traits we want more ability to circulate

i'm not sure adding more rls per week is really the right solution for the problems the bigger player base has with the system? i think it also creates a lot more work and might potentially water down the quality of the rls in the longterm

personally i'm not a huge fan of locking the rls behind a years worth of rolls, not all new players are going to abandon their accounts with the rls on them, i'm still new but i really love this game and rls so the idea of not being able to really access them through a lottery system is kind of sad, although i understand the push to give active and longterm players more chances at them. perhaps just giving people who have rolled more than 365 days total more opportunities to impress her would be better as a solution to this specific part of the issue!

i think a lot of people would love for older lost rls to come back, i think adding them into the lineup for rls would be a great way to reintroduce some of those lost traits!



no additional suggestions though, in summation i think
1. adding more copies of the rl traits in the pool including via studs will lessen the issues with traits not being spread
2. giving older and more active players more opportunities for rls is better
3. give us back some of the older girls lost to time!

love that the staff is addressing community feedback for this one, it definitely is a great idea that the system wasn't working as intended, i'm really hoping that whatever fix we get will lessen the amount of frustration and harassment happening within the community so we can all have more fun with raffle traits!



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Edited on 05/08/24 @ 12:43:48 by mars {majivu nrlc} (#473132)

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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:13:35
i like this, however i think its going to kill rls in their market. they wont be as much anymore if there is more than 10 copies of the chased. also there are so many rls out there i dont even know what to look for anymore



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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:13:37
I like the idea of a raffle lioness in explore! Maybe instead of a clone of a previous raffle lioness it would be a few lionesses put in the pool with a few of the traits, like 10-20 NRLCs with 5-10 traits of the full RLC. That way more people have a chance to get the traits instead of just two people with the full RLC, because that wouldn't really help distribute the traits very quickly if both those people decide to either A. Keep the line private in a partnership or B. Both happen to not be active/interested in trying to distrubute markings/eye colors

Also I really like the idea of a raffle stud to win raffle breedings. That kind of ties into the NRLC idea I'm talking about, distributing a few traits but not all to multiple players. It could be fun lore too, like it's the Raffle lioness' brother is sneaking around your king's back with your lionesses while your king is too busy trying to impress his sister.



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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:13:46
it might be cool if those studs were released if/when lions w that trait go below a certain number to prevent extinction



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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:14:09
I don't like the idea of locking the raffle lioness for players who have been on for that long, I get the activity aspect, but it would block so many otherwise active players from having a chance at a raffle lioness.

I do like the idea of a raffle stud, however. One lioness and one stud per week, I'd say keep it how it is that way, and re-releasing raffle lionesses who are otherwise inaccessible is a wonderful idea.



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