Posted by [535+] New Breeding Item: Strange Yam

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Charlie - RGR!
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2024-09-07 09:23:34



⋆⁺ Strange Yam ⁺⋆
[Your lioness] takes a cautious nibble, before enthusiastically digging in. She licks her lips gratefully, rolling to her side. It seems like something interesting has happened...
Use this on your lioness to guarantee a set of two identical twin cubs.

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β₯ Mechanics
It might be easiest if the identical twin overwrites another cub in the breeding to avoid extra-large litters. However, this risks overwriting a mutated cub. Maybe the Strange Yam should roll after all other breeding items?


β₯ Connection to In-Game Features
β†’ Grain of Paradise Similarities
Some might say this is a reskinned GOP, but I'd argue it adds a fun roulette of "wow, what will I get?" when breeding lions together, especially for rosettes (and if not too OP, mutations!)

If an event item, the price for Strange Yams should match or be slightly higher than the GOP item cost because it also guarantees two cubs.

β†’ Mutation Breeding
This item has a few options for mutation breeding according to how the admins see fit.

If it's deemed too OP to be able to "twin" a mutated cub, I like the idea of one having the mutation and the other being identical ASIDE from the mutation. I think this is also very aligned with reality as real-life identical twins can have differing mutations.

Like, maybe it doesn't affect mutation rolls whatsoever - theoretically, every cub could roll muts regardless of its "twin" having or not having a mutation. I think this is the best path forward.

β†’ Crunchy Worm Usage
Using a Strange Yam with a Crunchy Worm could result in two cubs being clones of the lioness, like two full RLCs. Proper RNG settings allowing this chance could make this a strong selling point.

If that's too complex, breeding for favorite markings would still be appealing. Admins might prefer it to be a Crunchy OR Strange Yam scenario, but I’m okay with that.

β†’ Rosette Passing
If the lion(ess) has many rosettes, this item could be greatβ€”if one twin inherits rosettes, you would get a 2-for-1 rosette offspring deal.


β₯ Inspiration: "Yams are a rich source of progesterone and phytoestrogens, which may lead to hyper-ovulation. Therefore, the high amount of yams in human diets was reported as a probable cause of twin or multiple births."

The above is underresearched and often seen as a wives' tale, but I think it’s a fun and simple way to add breeding items without causing major balance issues and remaining in the realm of reality!


β₯ Creator's Notes
My concept might be silly, but I think it could be fun and exciting. Let me know what you think, and feel free to share any disagreements - I love finding workarounds and solutions!



This suggestion has 547 supports and 23 NO supports.



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Edited on 10/11/24 @ 14:46:19 by 🏳️‍🌈 Charlie - RGR! 🏳️‍🌈 (#379209)

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2024-09-09 16:36:45
What if there was a risk that a twin could overwrite the genetics of another cub in a litter? That could potentially be a deterrent for some that are trying to project breed and pass rare slot markings! It wouldn't render a gop useless because it would be a much safer option for those not looking to gamble on two potato twins



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2024-09-09 16:40:41
Very true Pinenut! I really am looking forward to seeing if this picks up traction, and most importantly how it is changed by the Lioden team if that happens. I like to see my ideas evolve - even in the last 24 hours I think my opinions on this item have certainly been changed for the better by some users.



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2024-09-09 17:40:53
I like your idea in theory, but the one drawback I have is with rlcs.

The rlc market is already bonkers, if an item came out that could increase cubs from 1 clone to 2, demand for them would go up, but then drop exponentially. There would be no point in people owning more than 1 clone of a line, and you could go from 4 in game clones to 8+ overnight (RO/breeding after aged up) and that would hurt overall demand for them.

Yes, crunchies fail but increasing the odds by getting 2 would still cause specific lines to become over saturated. Collecting rlc lines is fun because certain ones are more rare than others, causing a weird fluctuation in value.On one hand, more clones means less worth but rarer lines would increase, as people want to ovoid blowing the line up. Which could cause a rift in cheaper more common ones and rare lines. On average a rlc throws 2 clones in her life, increasing that to 4 as a whole would get chaotic.

Also, rlcs aren’t the only thing people use crunches on. 10+ rosettes, special base multi rosettes, and specific breed only combos are bred for. Those would also increase a significant amount because the initial person who made them wouldn’t want multiple duplicates being able to be produced by 1 lioness.



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2024-09-09 17:42:57
I wholeheartedly agree with this! I just feel like it wouldn't risk tanking the economy if it only allowed you to use either a crunchy or a yam, plus they're both in that same vein of "cloning", kinda like how lion meat and gmo cow can't be used together



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2024-09-09 17:49:35
Very true! Thank you for your discussion Elio! We've been discussing the Crunchy Conundrum for a few posts now and I think there's been some very good talk around it. I think ultimately this will be up to the admins no matter what I think if this item is chosen to be integrated into the game! Haha



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2024-09-09 17:55:48
i would support this suggestion ONLY under the circumstance that it uses the same slot as crunchy worms. getting twin RLCs just seems way too OP and poses too much threat to a market people want to preserve



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2024-09-09 19:07:59
Very true - something to keep in mind Mewflakes! Thank you for your feedback, it's something we've discussed a little and I'm happy to concede to this point if admins decide similarly. I think it's a good point.



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2024-09-09 19:15:16
I overall love the idea, it would make heir attempts so much more successful, especially if it could be stacked with ochre powder. It just gets sticky with higher value lions



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2024-09-10 03:45:05
Elio, you got me thinking. I wonder if there is a possible workaround for that too that hasn't been implemented due to it being unneeded - where they could lock RLC & RLC clones out of using the item through code.



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2024-09-10 03:48:00
Oh my gosh yesyyeyeywywyyeyeyeyes



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2024-09-15 09:42:25
This would be so great to have greater donation of raffle prizes!



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2024-09-19 03:30:33
This already exists on Wolvden (only by way of RNG chance, not an item)
Something really neat is it'll say identical twin on each wolf twins page, and you're able to click the link to the other twins page. It's a neat little feature and makes twins a nice thing for friends to gift eachother and stuff.

I don't see any reason why it couldn't be here, especially given the same people made both these games, it's good to know the identical twin mechanic is already a thing they've coded. I don't have anything to contribute aside that I like the idea and I have supported it, though, and have nothing against it being an item, instead of the RNG chance it is on Wolvden.

I'll leave the technicalities to others! Haha



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2024-09-19 03:47:59
Wow!! I had no idea, I think that's a great point - if it's already coded (even if the base code is there), I feel a lot better about the workload it would create. Even if we aren't meant to worry about that particular aspect and leave it to admins to decide if it's too much - I still worry! LOL



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2024-09-26 04:49:15
I had a feeling you wouldn't know, and a feeling you might feel better about the workload this could create because who wouldn't right! But honestly, I think it's a realistic expectation with it already being on Wolvden. Now just to push for it! Haha



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2024-09-26 15:52:05
I agree! Thanks so much for telling me!



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