Posted by New Iridescent Group

Xylax (#4)

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2017-10-27 07:59:48
- New Color Group (like Black, Cream etc) and move just a few bases such as Cinnabar etc + add new ones.
Black, Cream, Red, Golden, Iridescent - ideally this would free up how crowded Black group is with colours like Opal, Glacial, Ice and so on and make Black more about Black and Maltese/Lilac. This would make few bases forced to be moved to new colour groups.

- New Shading Group (like Solid and Countershaded) and just move the colours like green, blue etc to new shade to make the breeding within same colour group easier for natural and colorbomb breeders.
Esentially such idea would keep all existing bases in same colour groups as they are but added a third shading variety.

Keep in mind this is just a discussion to see what community thinks about this idea! It does not have to be a planned update.

I am open to anything.

We can poll moving EACH base first.
We will obviously fill any gaps that would appear with new bases, specially from Suggestion boards.
It would open doors for more coloruful bases without distrupting natural breeders.
We could introduce new NCL's sporting unique Iridescent bases in events like "Weekend only" and so on.

ADDITIONALLY - Also I am open to Iridiscent Colour Group working with BOOSTS with their previous colours (like Cinnabar working with Reds with additional breeding boosts)

Let us know your thoughts!

NOTE: there is no reason to create suggestions already based on this idea as this mechanic not only does not exist on Lioden yet, but it does not have to end up in Lioden at all. You're welcome to post your ideas here directly.ll

Original suggestion, worth reading



This suggestion has 585 supports and 61 NO supports.



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Edited on 27/10/17 @ 08:17:18 by Xylax (#4)

fortmax (#91111)

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2017-10-27 09:12:59
Yeah, I agree with Fart. I don't want unnatural bases to be quarantined.



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😸 Chonk 😸 (#54568)

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Posted on
2017-10-27 09:15:00
I think the only way it would work is by putting it in with solid/countershaded



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cin☆vo h2hoe (#106573)

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Posted on
2017-10-27 09:15:02
I'm perfectly fine with the way things are now as well. You might be disappointed getting a cinnabar if you're a natural breeder but can't you just sell it off? As for the special specials like glacial, it's impossible for you to get a random cub with glacial unless one of the parents is glacial.

However, if this is implemented I would strongly prefer it to be a new gradient along with countershaded and solid. I don't think that will affect medium base breeders because they can just stick to one gradient. For example, as a sidereal breeder I have a shit ton of cocoas that I breed with and because both bases are countershaded I don't have to worry about any solid bases popping up.



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Edited on 27/10/17 @ 09:17:07 by cin✨siderealfelis (#106573)

Whale Biologist 🐋 (#35355)

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2017-10-27 09:17:19

I don't understand how any of this would "quarantine" them? Black bases aren't "quarentined" for not being able to produce red bases among them. Quarentine isn't really an applicable word at all.

I understand their own group either way would separate them, but nothing's stopping you from breeding outside their group.




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Edited on 27/10/17 @ 09:19:24 by Xenos [FF] (#35355)

Fart (#25392)

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Posted on
2017-10-27 09:21:09
... You admitted they would be separated out. I like that they're mixed in across all the different color groups.



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cin☆vo h2hoe (#106573)

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2017-10-27 09:21:47
If we have a new color group called "iridescent" and I want to breed glacial, I could have random cinnabars showing up in my cubs from a Glacial x Chartreux litter. That doesn't make sense and I don't want that.

If it's a new gradient, I can breed glacial x chartreux and not get any random cinnabar, but the people in the red color group who also don't want cinnabar wouldn't get random cinnabars either, because they would have to breed a countershaded/solid to an iridescent for it to pop up.



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JAX •
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Posted on
2017-10-27 09:22:45
Iridescent isn't a color or a shade. I don't support adding this at all.



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Grimme (#79085)

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Posted on
2017-10-27 09:26:10
This is why I think just making Natural & Iridescent two different categories of bases, you'll still have Black, Cream, Red & Gold bases and you wouldn't have any random cinnabars popping up when breeding black bases. This doesn't mean you cant breed Natural & Iridescent bases together, but it would be as Cin said breeding countershaded x countershaded doesn't give you solid.



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Whale Biologist 🐋 (#35355)

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2017-10-27 09:26:50

@Fart Quarentine -a state, period, or place of isolation in which people or animals that have arrived from elsewhere or been exposed to infectious or contagious disease are placed.

Group - a number of people or things that are located close together or are considered or classed together.

Regardless of either our points, quarentine is just a wod you're using to make things sound more severe. Sorry to get off topic, it's just a pet peeve of mine.




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Indy .: Hard Mode :. (#86046)

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2017-10-27 09:28:31
What cin said ^ - I agree. I think there just needs to be some way of making it so they are somewhat special but that the groupings make sense. Like you said you wouldn't want a Cinnabar showing up from a pairing of blue (black) lions... but then if you did, you could sell off that Cinnabar. Those things go like hot potatoes.



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Tale (#68023)

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Posted on
2017-10-27 09:29:13
Personally I think making iridescence a special rarity would be the best option. Iridescent bases would still throw their respective color group and fail cubs (which is great) while also helping natural breeders / colorbomb breeders - just like the current special group we would have to breed to a parent with iridescent rarity in order to get an iridescent cub. That way natural breeders can aim only for common and special bases, colorbomb breeders (and everyone else who likes both) can aim for common, special and iridescent rarity. It wouldn't limit or "quarantine" anything unless the player wanted it to. Just like special can throw special and common bases, iridescent would be able to throw common, special and iridescent colors. :)



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cin☆vo h2hoe (#106573)

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Posted on
2017-10-27 09:29:45
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I mean there's a second definition

impose isolation on... which is pretty accurate I'd say


(but this is all semantics and doesn't really matter)



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Edited on 27/10/17 @ 09:32:43 by cin✨siderealfelis (#106573)

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lean ❄ (#94890)

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Posted on
2017-10-27 09:39:19
I'd prefer it to be a new shade in each individual color group we have today, blue shaded bases will go to black color group, greenish ones will belong to golden color group, etc.

And please don't change the special bases to common bases, make them stay what they are.



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rabe & tox
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Posted on
2017-10-27 09:45:03
@Tale
Do i get it right, that we then have (for ex.) "Red Light solid Iridescent" rather than "Red Light Solid Special"?
How do we know which base color is more rare than others? We would degrade the now special bases on the same stage as common, or do you mean it in a different way? ;3
(Sorry)



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Tale (#68023)

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2017-10-27 09:45:09
@DitDot; With my suggestion of rarity change (common, special and iridescent - note: I've scrapped the uncommon section) I wouldn't want to see any bases demoted from their current standing, only upgraded from common or special to special or iridescent.



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