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-LOCKED - Discussion: Raffle Lionesses | |
Posted on 2024-08-05 08:57:00
We are aware of some issues that the community has been voicing with the raffle lioness system, with some complaints including it being difficult to pass on raffle-exclusive traits, raffle lionesses going to inactive accounts, and so on. We have had our own discussion among the developers and would now like to present a discussion where the community can provide feedback on the ideas we have outlined below regarding how the system can be modified, and possibly even give their own ideas if they aren't already covered. We will be closely monitoring this topic to record feedback, which we will then use for an upcoming site poll.
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Maro 🇵🇱 (G2 Scoundrel Ferus) (#167078) Warrior View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-05 12:54:32 |
I am really happy reading about these ideas! I know raffle lionesses were meant to be something unique and so special, but one special lady for so many players (especially when lioden became more popular in last years) in too frustrating! I play since beginning of 2019 and honestly, I didn't think I'd be able to ever get the raffle lioness. The chance is just too low, and therefore, I thought I just have to accept that I'd never get all achievements, no matter how much time I put in this game. And I spend REALLY much time here! Breeding lethals, hybrids and getting other rare things like interstellar or solaris is really hard, but player's decisions and effort have the meaning in this process. You can do mass CRB breedings or explore A LOT. Raffle lionesses are something we don't have any impact on. We just click the button and wait. The only thing we can do is to raise the impression level really fast to not lose any week. That's why I think these adjustments are a GREAT IDEA and I am sooooo thankful they are considered! I really like the idea of raffle stud. He and the special lioness could be siblings that are looking for different things. She is looking to join a pride and change her life, settle down... and her brother just wants fun Chased RLCs sound cool too. I personally can't decide which idea I like more. But a thought that new markings would spread faster and things will be available for more people makes me so happy. I remember when I had no idea about raffle trait suggestion forum topic and I really needed stratosphere undertone on a certain slot. People were hoarding this marking like it was about their life or death, and they were SO MEAN about such little thing. I just wanted to have a nice dark lion with pretty undertone that matches my project slots!! Another story about looking for a certain marking- I looked for something and there were only 2 people in game having such lions. I messaged them and told them to reply no matter when they log in. And the person messaged me after almost a year The idea of additional raffle lionesses and to be able to participate in raffles only for active players makes me so hopeful and happy. I hope more special traits and pretty lions will be available to claim for more people, and I hope everything will be easier and less frustrating now :D Another suggestion: The raffle lioness mechanic doesn't change (except only active players can participate), but previously released raffle lionesses appear as NPCs you can do quests for. They need help with something, they need items, they need a player to fight NPCs for them or just something similar to dating in Wolvden. Each week, there would be 3 or 4 different random raffle lionesses from previous weeks, and their pictures would be like our heir picture in dens. There would be a flirty or encouraging quote under every portrait. When a player reaches the full reputation (and it doesn't happen in one week, he would have to do many quests for her when she appears, and we never know when it happens again because its random)-they get an opportunity to claim her ONE TIME. This way every player would have a chance to get every raffle lioness (but after putting MUCH effort in that!) The lionesses could be older, like 6-7 years old- so the special lioness of the current week is still a great claim and better deal. What do you think about this concept? 5 players like this post! Like? Edited on 05/08/24 @ 13:12:48 by Maro 🇵🇱 (13xBreed only) (#167078) |
Mad Hyena (#29080)
Necromancer View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-05 12:54:53 |
Seeing as there's many people opposing the #1 idea, how about a slight change - release not Copies of the raffle lioness in explore, but something like Wenet cousins? Similar lionesses with less special traits, BUT present newly relesed BO traits - and other traits rolled randomly, like they do for Wenet cousins. That way, it will add an even greater degree of fun into finding them - never know what one might be! It would be exciting and cool thing to hunt down in explore. While not actually threatening the uniqueness of the original Raffle lioness, they'd be similar, but not copies - rolled randomly with few preset things, like Wenet cousins. I still think it should be Dreamboat only thing, though. It would be weird raffle is available for Dreamboats only BUT her cousins are less picky starting at Average? 16 players like this post! Like? Edited on 05/08/24 @ 12:57:01 by Mad Hyena (#29080) |
Fire 🔥 🇵🇸 (#35734)
Interstellar View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-05 12:55:34 |
I do not support RLs being released in explore, but I love the idea of raffle studs. I think #6 is a terrible idea because it creates priority and makes the raffle unfair if for some reason people cannot roll every day. #7 being a separate raffle isn't that bad. Overall I think raffle studs are the best solution. 3 players like this post! Like? |
Ryou🧡🤍🩷|G1 Penta Dawn (#268521) View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-05 12:55:45 |
Ok so here's my suggestion after some thought: You know how event markings work? Well, do something similar with RLs. During the week a certain RL is available, her markings and other traits can be obtained through claiming lionesses as if they were lionesses with event markings. These NCLs may have 1 to 3 traits shared with the current RL. That way even though we still risk the RL becoming unavailable for any reason, the traits are still out there for recreation or any other purposes such as other projects, instead of the traits themselves being lost forever. This also ensures the RL will still be unique and there's not a bunch of people winning the same RL. I feel like this would solve the issue while still keeping the RLs value. 12 players like this post! Like? |
GremlinInBlue (#456116)
Harbinger View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-05 12:58:18 |
second coming of Nasalstrip (#235705) Deathlord of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-05 12:58:35 |
Deleted 1 player likes this post! Like? Edited on 05/08/24 @ 12:58:59 by second coming of RAGAN! (#235705) |
FieryPard (#147400)
Holy View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-05 13:00:33 |
After a lot of thought, I'd love to see points 3 and 4 be implemented out of everything listed. It keeps RLs rare/special, but makes it less likely that the RL/BOs/markings of the week will be lost. The Raffle Studs would be a great way to reintroduce lost/rare BOs/marks slowly back into the population. 2 players like this post! Like? Edited on 05/08/24 @ 13:12:21 by DesertPard (G2 DorsalFur RLC) (#147400) |
Swarm Moss *project king* (#6647) Usual View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-05 13:01:52 |
Love the idea of Ryou🧡🤍🩷|G1 Penta Dawn (#268521) as i stated before, just release ncl with some tier 2 features, indeed release ncl with 2-4 traits of the the RL instead of multiple. because what the point even of a RL if its not a rl but also a ncl. 1 player likes this post! Like? |
Guac (#334737)
Unholy View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-05 13:01:55 |
Tanuki🌿 (#124772)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-05 13:01:56 |
I love the idea of Raffle studs, and potentially 4-5 players being able to win a stud opportunity, whilst keeping the RL special and unique. 1 player likes this post! Like? |
。*゚ Dawn 。*゚ Meteorite 2x ros (#354515) Maneater View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-05 13:02:24 |
I literally love all of these ideas! These would be so awesome to see in game! Love the thought of multiple raffle lionesses and raffle studs and finding them in explore the most though ! 0 players like this post! Like? Edited on 05/08/24 @ 13:03:08 by 。*゚ Dawn 。*゚8m hibisc deadal (#354515) |
🍋 lemon 🍋 (#459525)
Maneater View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-05 13:05:06 |
I think everything sounds awesome but I'm not sure about the explore RL idea 2 players like this post! Like? |
☀moonless☀ (#234246)
Unholy View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-05 13:06:48 |
As of now, the idea of Raffle Studs sounds best to me. It would solve the biggest problem with RLs right now, completely new traits (bases, eyes, markings) and re-released marking slots (or maybe even re-RE-released slots) landing on dead or inactive accounts, or being privated by the RL winner. I think many people miss the point that RLs are released to spread new (or old extinct) traits to the community and it's not all about winning a fancy looking lion. An RL not being able to spread their traits defeats their entire purpose. However, releasing old and new traits on a chased RL sounds nice if changed up, too. Chasing a 1 to 1 copy of an RL would make the OG RL feel way less special, so I propose a "RL Sister" system instead. These "sisters" would share the unique traits of the OG RL, such as new (non - combo) bases, eyes, marking slots or maybe even unique eye+ skin or mane combos. BUT they would be missing other non- unique traits, most of the community view an RLC with at least 8-9 shared traits as an actual RLC, so this could be a nice hand rule for the sisters as well. Sisters would have maybe around 5 markings instead of the full 10, instead of Combo bases they would have factor bases (example, last weeks RL was a Madagascar, so a sister of her could have the Sapela base instead), instead of the same base they could have a rare base in the same genetics category (unless it's a very new Raffle base), instead of combo eyes they would have factors and so on, BUT would always share unique traits of the OG RL. An example! This is the 09.30.22 Orchid RL, currently sitting on a very dead account with 0 clones. I'm currently working on rebreeding her and that's fine by me! If you really like an extinct RL, nothing stops you from trying to rebreed her, until you have to deal with extinct slots. Currently 3 of her marking slots are only on lions on inactive/frozen accounts while 1 of her slots was completely unique to her and is yet to be re-released on another RL. So, this is how some of her RL Sisters could look like! All of them share the important slots with the OG RL (Slot 1,6,8 and 10) but are otherwise unique on their own, having a base switched for the same genetics as Orchid, another extra marking(s) or a fail eye color of Briar. These are very simple variations you can make in like a minute, so it wouldn't be a huge workload to make sisters for other RL's either. Like this, while these lions wouldnt be full RLs, they would still feel special on their own. My idea is that once a RL is drawn, one or more sister is released into the chased pool in company with a sister of an old RL, but I suppose there is a loot of room for variation here. Devs already mentioned they want an indicator and/or failsave when you have a special chased like this on your claiming screen, so the chance for these lions to be mistaken as regular chased wouldn't be a problem as well! Maybe they could have their own unique decor they come with as well (like the Leopard Orchid) instead of Raffle Backgrounds, a sparkly flower crown perhaps? 11 players like this post! Like? Edited on 05/08/24 @ 13:14:54 by ☀moonless☀ (#234246) |
Tallow [G1 Blonde Fiss 2.4k] (#440905) Scourge of Lions View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-05 13:10:28 |
How exciting! I like all these ideas, but I would like the impressionable lionesss clones to appear only to Dreamboat males. Special things are special because they're limited, and they lose their fun if they're more accessible to less experienced players. In short, more play should be more-rewarded. Thanks for involving us in the developments. You guys are the best! 2 players like this post! Like? |
DuckNugget (#244387)
Maneater View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-08-05 13:17:05 |
This would be really cool but how would you know if it’s a rl chased or just a chased? 0 players like this post! Like? |