-LOCKED - Discussion: Raffle Lionesses
Posted on 2024-08-05 08:57:00
We are aware of some issues that the community has been voicing with the raffle lioness system, with some complaints including it being difficult to pass on raffle-exclusive traits, raffle lionesses going to inactive accounts, and so on. We have had our own discussion among the developers and would now like to present a discussion where the community can provide feedback on the ideas we have outlined below regarding how the system can be modified, and possibly even give their own ideas if they aren't already covered.

We will be closely monitoring this topic to record feedback, which we will then use for an upcoming site poll.


New Features Being Implemented

We have some features that will be added regardless of feedback within a future update:

New Features We May Implement


* Adjusting the raffle lioness system so that only players who have been active in the last two days (so Wednesdays onward) will have a chance to win when the raffle lioness is pulled
* Sending an email notification to the player who won the weekly raffle lioness


New Features We're Considering/Discussing

These are features we have had ideas for, or have found in the Game Development forums, and would like to see which of the following would be most preferred.

** 1. Storing raffle lioness designs and releasing them slowly through explore.
Essentially, this would mean creating multiple copies of the same raffle lioness to be slow-dripped into the game through the claiming system. They would work as chased lionesses, so only kings with Average impression or higher could find them. This would likely come with a failsafe so that if the lioness fails to be claimed, she goes back into the chased pool so another player has a chance to claim her. All raffle lionesses are made with the Nurturing (Good) personality, so raffle lionesses released through the claiming system would display the Good pose.

The first week, Raffle Lioness 1 is pulled and sent to the winner, and Raffle Lioness 2 is put up to be impressed. The second week, Raffle Lioness 2 is pulled and sent to the winner, Raffle Lioness 3 is put up to be impressed, and a clone of Raffle Lioness 1 is put into the chased lioness pool in explore. The third week, Raffle Lioness 3 is pulled and sent to the winner, Raffle Lioness 4 is put up to be impressed, and clones of Raffle Lionesses 1 and 2 are put into the chased pool in explore. This repeats up to a maximum of 9 clones, making for 10 total lionesses with the same design.

A graph to show the overall release schedule for raffle lionesses through explore.
[Click to view the image full-sized]




** 2. Releasing an identical replica raffle stud alongside a raffle lioness.
The stud would have the exact same traits as the raffle lioness, but rather than being delivered to a winner's territory, a select amount of players (between 20-50) would win the ability to breed with him. This would work similarly to August's event studs in that items could not be used on the stud for breeding. We also considered, if implementing replica studs, to allow all players to enter for a chance to win a stud breeding, but lock weekly raffle lionesses so that only accounts that have 365 or more total rollovers (not consecutive) would be eligible to try and impress her.


** 3. Implementing raffle studs in general.
An alternative to releasing an identical replica raffle stud would be releasing a raffle stud alongside a raffle lioness who may share similar traits, e.g. if a raffle lioness is releasing a brand new eye colour, the raffle stud that week would have that eye colour as well, or if she is releasing a brand new raffle marking, the raffle stud that week would have that marking as well (either in the same slot, or a different slot). Breedings to this stud would also be limited to 20-50 players weekly, and items would not be allowed. This would also come with all players being able to enter for a chance to win a stud breeding, but locking weekly raffle lionesses so that only accounts that have 365 or more total rollovers (not consecutive) would be eligible to try and impress her.


** 4. Releasing more than one raffle lioness per week.
This would either be multiple identical copies of the same raffle lioness, or up to 3 different raffle lionesses at once who would share some of the same traits, but not be identical.


** 5. Releasing recreated copies of previous raffle lionesses who are on banned/closed accounts.
This would be making a replica of the raffle lioness to raffle off through the official raffle system. The original raffle lioness would stay on the same account. This is specifically only for permanently suspended accounts, and accounts that have been closedβ€”not inactive accounts that are not suspended/closed.


** 6. Allow the weekly raffle lioness to be impressed daily instead of once weekly for higher chances of winning, therefore rewarding more active players.
The weekly raffle lioness would still be available for a full week as usual, but daily impression attempts will add up and give a greater chance at winning her as compared to only one attempt per week (how it currently works).


** 7. Add a second raffle lioness for players who have rolled over at least 365 times in total (not consecutively), with potentially more unique traits than a standard Dreamboat raffle lioness.
Players who have rolled over 365 or more times would have the ability to impress both the standard Dreamboat raffle lioness, as well as a second raffle lioness that is only available to accounts with 365+ total rollovers.





We may mix-and-match some of the options, but we will be polling the community on these options regardless.

If you have any ideas or suggestions that were not listed above, we would appreciate your input and highly encourage you to provide a detailed response within this news post!

We will be deleting any comments that do not actually contribute to the discussion.



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Edited on 05/08/24 @ 10:34:29 by Katze (#3)

KitKat (#207018)

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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:39:42
I love the explore and stud ones, that would really add to the RL system. Though, making RL go from weekly to daily might make them less rare, and in turn make them not as rewarding to breed if there are too many. That would ruin the whole point of releasing new markings and eyes.

I think the 365+ days RL is a good idea. It gives newer players motivation to be active, and rewards older players with more exclusive content.



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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:39:58
I like options #1, #3, and #5 the best!!



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Seph|G1 Haunted 14BO (#39153)

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2024-08-05 09:41:21
I really, really like option #1. I love finding chased lionesses in explore and this would be absolutely awesome to me!

I also like #4 and #5, but to a much lesser extent than option #1. I also have a concern...why are banned accounts even allowed to be in the running? There should be a system in place that checks every day - say, at 5 mins to midnight - for banned accounts in the entry pool and then removes them automatically. If an account is banned/perma-suspended, that lioness should be redrawn entirely, not sent to that account in the first place.

I kinda like #6, but I don't think I'd like it implemented by itself. A lot of players are active every day, so this feels like a wash rather than a true improvement on the current system.

I'm torn on #7 - comparative newbies aren't winning because the raffle draw is somehow skewed in newbies' favor, but because there are simply more of them still playing the game than there are hella old players like me.

I don't really like the idea of raffle studs - specifically, because of the low # of players who get the chance to breed, but in combination with that, no items would be allowed - that just kinda sucks. I know that it's to limit cloning, but imagine the outrage and upset from players who won that rare, coveted stud slot who get potatoes. Not great.




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2024-08-05 09:41:22
I love all of these options, though I feel weird about limiting it to 365 ROs
even 365 RO or more total feels like a lot tbh though too, but it would be a nice reward for older players. I do not think most options should be limited to only those players, though. it feels unfair & further limiting for any players that continue to have never gotten any Raffle Lionesses

Despite everyone's varying opinions on the RL being too "common" if hey are released into chased lionesses on #1, I like this idea! It would be good to limit it to dreamboat status, however. I like this idea a lot, as it definitely gives the chance to spread the new traits. I love the exclusivity of raffle lionesses, but I do think it's very frustrating when traits and very rare slot positioned markings are kept away from the community and I feel its more important to address that!

like some others are saying, I do think as well that any chased raffle lionesses should have an indicator that they are, in fact a raffle lioness, so we don't accidentally skip over any!

raffle studs in general would be a great thing to add as well. it is something many have been asking for

edit: i also HEAVILY dislike the idea of needing to be active specifically 2 days before to have a chance to win. that would mean you spend money on the raffle but if you don't log in wed/thurs you don't get the lioness you paid for a chance with?



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Edited on 05/08/24 @ 10:08:39 by Kinda Spacey 🏳️‍⚧️ (#234346)

Jewel Wildmoon (#127341)

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2024-08-05 09:41:27
Ohh I actually like all of these and I'd LOVE seeing raffle studs being implemented and the idea of there being more than 1 raffle lioness per week. I'm a bit iffy about #6 because it's already based on luck and may be a little unfair to some active players who aren't able to save up enough to buy more impressions, but the rest of them I love the idea of.



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Edited on 05/08/24 @ 09:44:24 by Jewel Wildmoon (#127341)

Astrid (#77238)

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2024-08-05 09:41:48
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@Elk (#77238): The 365+ rollovers requirement if raffle studs are implemented would actually be for impressing the raffle lioness, not the stud! The raffle stud would be able to be entered by anyone, regardless of rollover count."

I cannot read today apparently /3
In that case I can see why some people are upset by the idea. I do not have much of an opinion on that particular aspect though.



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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:41:57
News!!!
I love the idea of raffle studs and rereleasing RL's from banned/closed accounts. The chased usea is really cool but I think it could drastically impact the RL economy. Either way I'm glad action is being taken to balance the current RL system!



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Davina (G2 Tovero) (#327102)

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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:42:00
This sounds great! However I don't think it's fair to only let super active players try and claim the raffle lioness because a lot of active of active players only roll once a week for various reasons.

1. I think this could be cool but releasing too many clones into explore would really cheapen the value of the rl so I think it would be best to only release maybe 1 or 2 if necessary.

2-3. I think a raffle stud would be great but I don't think he should be an exact clone of the rl, like have the markings in diff slots and if it's not a newly released trait, change it with something else. That way players could get the new traits without diminishing the value and uniqueness of the rl.

4. I don't think there should be more than 1 rl to preserve the uniqueness of her line. If there was I think they should be more like ncls with some of the rls traits, markings in diff slots etc.

5. This is a terrific idea, it's so sad to see beautiful lionesses lost to dead accounts. This would be a great opportunity for me to get a clone of my birthday rl So glad you guys are considering implementing this

6. Again, I don't think this is fair. I know you guys want people to spend a lot of time on Lioden but people have real lives and responsibilities and other reasons, like freezing accs, for not rolling over daily.

7. I think this would be a great opportunity for seasoned Lioden players! Definitely support.



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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:42:15
that's all sound amazing!
but it could HEAVILY affect the market. probably ncl-raffle feature should be considered for little changes or remade. I'd like ot to be something like, nlc-based special lioness, so that would make huge sense. but we have only 3+- bo bases for nlc, it'll need something more, and this requires more artwork.
I like 365 days feature. I don't think people would really be upset about it. to develop in lioden people *should* play all year, to see all events and funny things, if they're really interested in game. so it's not that bad. kinda wasted my 2 years to figure everything out for me, and I'm still really happy to see all new content. People should enjoy lioden experience, and if they'll get rewards for it, why's that bad? only gets them more reasons to play.
if you think I've missed something and want to explain me what's wrong with that features you can dm me or answer here!!



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Thalassa (#7869)

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Posted on
2024-08-05 09:42:46
I am loving most of these ideas and I would like to see them all implemented, starting with the raffle studs preferably. The number of people playing the game has soared since the raffle was introduced and it makes sense to have more options on the table.

The only one I don't agree with is #1 as it would be too much of a pay-to-win kind of thing in my opinion



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2024-08-05 09:42:53
The raffle lioness market shouldn't be allowed to be as exclusive and clicky as it is. Everyone SHOULD have a fair chance to have the markings they want for their projects when the idea of the RL is to spread new traits into the game.
Plus, it's already steuggling as is.



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πŸŽ„β›„ leon (#208511)


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2024-08-05 09:43:32
I personally am not interested in option 1 at all. I worry that it might make the special lioness feel less, well, special. Same with an identical raffle stud. I'd like to see the raffle lionesses remain one and only until cloned or recreated by a player. While some players might appreciate the ease of finding a special lioness in explore, I believe that the unique nature of her should be somewhat preserved before players get her.

I would like to see raffle stud with similar traits, though. Certain traits are crucial for projects, and it's unfortunate when something someone needs finally gets released but gets snagged somewhere, sometimes for years.

However, I'm not entirely fond of any playtime restrictions, like the overall rollover suggestion. I see that you're not keen on taking feedback on the Wednesday onward implementation, but I feel somewhat the same way about it. I like that anyone can win a raffle lioness right now as long as they have the 50sb and are a dreamboat. And I worry that this could unfairly punish loyal players who have busy lives or specific rollover schedules. It's just something to consider. I'm torn about idea 6 for this reason, but ultimately I'd be okay with it.

I would most like idea 3 with some tweaks, idea 4 with multiple unique raffle lionesses, and idea 7.

Though, if Katze is going to be making multiple raffle lionesses a week, get her some help πŸ˜‚



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2024-08-05 09:44:03
(My wording was weird and idk how to delete forum comments-)



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Edited on 05/08/24 @ 09:50:45 by Gremlynbeans (#485359)

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2024-08-05 09:44:45
Oh my god finally!! 😭😭😭😭



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NightSky (#405480)

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2024-08-05 09:45:14
The chased idea is fantastic. It'll allow a few more marks to get released into the pool.

And the needing to be active is even better to prevent lionesses going extinct.

For the raffle stud, do you plan to release mutations on them as well? Like pies/patches and primals?



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