-LOCKED - Discussion: Raffle Lionesses
Posted on 2024-08-05 08:57:00
We are aware of some issues that the community has been voicing with the raffle lioness system, with some complaints including it being difficult to pass on raffle-exclusive traits, raffle lionesses going to inactive accounts, and so on. We have had our own discussion among the developers and would now like to present a discussion where the community can provide feedback on the ideas we have outlined below regarding how the system can be modified, and possibly even give their own ideas if they aren't already covered.

We will be closely monitoring this topic to record feedback, which we will then use for an upcoming site poll.


New Features Being Implemented

We have some features that will be added regardless of feedback within a future update:

New Features We May Implement


* Adjusting the raffle lioness system so that only players who have been active in the last two days (so Wednesdays onward) will have a chance to win when the raffle lioness is pulled
* Sending an email notification to the player who won the weekly raffle lioness


New Features We're Considering/Discussing

These are features we have had ideas for, or have found in the Game Development forums, and would like to see which of the following would be most preferred.

** 1. Storing raffle lioness designs and releasing them slowly through explore.
Essentially, this would mean creating multiple copies of the same raffle lioness to be slow-dripped into the game through the claiming system. They would work as chased lionesses, so only kings with Average impression or higher could find them. This would likely come with a failsafe so that if the lioness fails to be claimed, she goes back into the chased pool so another player has a chance to claim her. All raffle lionesses are made with the Nurturing (Good) personality, so raffle lionesses released through the claiming system would display the Good pose.

The first week, Raffle Lioness 1 is pulled and sent to the winner, and Raffle Lioness 2 is put up to be impressed. The second week, Raffle Lioness 2 is pulled and sent to the winner, Raffle Lioness 3 is put up to be impressed, and a clone of Raffle Lioness 1 is put into the chased lioness pool in explore. The third week, Raffle Lioness 3 is pulled and sent to the winner, Raffle Lioness 4 is put up to be impressed, and clones of Raffle Lionesses 1 and 2 are put into the chased pool in explore. This repeats up to a maximum of 9 clones, making for 10 total lionesses with the same design.

A graph to show the overall release schedule for raffle lionesses through explore.
[Click to view the image full-sized]




** 2. Releasing an identical replica raffle stud alongside a raffle lioness.
The stud would have the exact same traits as the raffle lioness, but rather than being delivered to a winner's territory, a select amount of players (between 20-50) would win the ability to breed with him. This would work similarly to August's event studs in that items could not be used on the stud for breeding. We also considered, if implementing replica studs, to allow all players to enter for a chance to win a stud breeding, but lock weekly raffle lionesses so that only accounts that have 365 or more total rollovers (not consecutive) would be eligible to try and impress her.


** 3. Implementing raffle studs in general.
An alternative to releasing an identical replica raffle stud would be releasing a raffle stud alongside a raffle lioness who may share similar traits, e.g. if a raffle lioness is releasing a brand new eye colour, the raffle stud that week would have that eye colour as well, or if she is releasing a brand new raffle marking, the raffle stud that week would have that marking as well (either in the same slot, or a different slot). Breedings to this stud would also be limited to 20-50 players weekly, and items would not be allowed. This would also come with all players being able to enter for a chance to win a stud breeding, but locking weekly raffle lionesses so that only accounts that have 365 or more total rollovers (not consecutive) would be eligible to try and impress her.


** 4. Releasing more than one raffle lioness per week.
This would either be multiple identical copies of the same raffle lioness, or up to 3 different raffle lionesses at once who would share some of the same traits, but not be identical.


** 5. Releasing recreated copies of previous raffle lionesses who are on banned/closed accounts.
This would be making a replica of the raffle lioness to raffle off through the official raffle system. The original raffle lioness would stay on the same account. This is specifically only for permanently suspended accounts, and accounts that have been closed—not inactive accounts that are not suspended/closed.


** 6. Allow the weekly raffle lioness to be impressed daily instead of once weekly for higher chances of winning, therefore rewarding more active players.
The weekly raffle lioness would still be available for a full week as usual, but daily impression attempts will add up and give a greater chance at winning her as compared to only one attempt per week (how it currently works).


** 7. Add a second raffle lioness for players who have rolled over at least 365 times in total (not consecutively), with potentially more unique traits than a standard Dreamboat raffle lioness.
Players who have rolled over 365 or more times would have the ability to impress both the standard Dreamboat raffle lioness, as well as a second raffle lioness that is only available to accounts with 365+ total rollovers.





We may mix-and-match some of the options, but we will be polling the community on these options regardless.

If you have any ideas or suggestions that were not listed above, we would appreciate your input and highly encourage you to provide a detailed response within this news post!

We will be deleting any comments that do not actually contribute to the discussion.



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Edited on 05/08/24 @ 10:34:29 by Katze (#3)

Summer (#471471)

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Posted on
2024-08-05 10:20:30
!!!! What an update

Honestly I'm down for all of these ideas, but realising raffle lionesses through explore and raffle studs might be my favorites. Also, bringing back raffle lionesses that are on closed accounts!! That's a must for me!

345 rollovers seems like a lot to me just to be able to participate at all, but I do like the idea of a second raffle lioness exclusive to those players! I think this would reward activity while still allowing everyone a chance at winning cool lions.

I love that we're seriously having this discussion. I think this has really good potential and I'm super excited to see were this goes!



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Posted on
2024-08-05 10:21:00
Number 5 sounds perfect! I am extremely anxious about options 1-3 as another market crash would likely occur in the NRLC and RLC area and please… we do not need another rare thing to become common and worthless….



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Posted on
2024-08-05 10:21:01
I do not like #7, it feels like lioden are playing favourites when there are some people who would die to get that rl, and even veteran players hoard RL's sometimes.

I think 1 would be the best option, as it would be accessible even for new players. One thing I would like to be added about these chaseds specifically, though, is that when they are not succesfully claimed, they go backc in the chased pool. This will repeat until they are successfully claimed.



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Posted on
2024-08-05 10:21:23
DANG THESE SOUNDS INTERESTING
esp if raffle studs gonna be a multi winner thing



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Posted on
2024-08-05 10:21:49
I like all of it.



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2024-08-05 10:22:30
I think number 1 would be a mistake if done exactly as posted. it would make RLCs and crunchies crash in value. RLCs are special because there arn't very many of them. Put 10 in explore and they are no longer special. I personally don't like the idea of hoarding or making private but I also don't want to be flooded with them. I feel like 2-3 months after the RL is released, you put 2 into explore. That way the original owner gets to be special and exclusive and make money off of it if they want. But they also can't control it for forever. I also like 7. There are no real benefits for being a long term player (besides the small birthday gifts). Plus its not like new players couldn't buy a clone of a veteran RL. I think new players have FOMO and care more about getting their lions than the economy, which veteran players have a more vested interest in.



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Posted on
2024-08-05 10:24:10
@Peafowl You aren't being punished for being inactive. The point of the RL is to introduced new breed only traits into the community to be spread among the player base. If you aren't active, you can't spread them effectively. It makes sense to limit winners to people who play semi-regularly and could feasibly distribute the traits.

Marks sitting on dead accounts, going to new players who never sign on again, or being intentionally kept between a handful of players who refuse to sell has been a problem forever. If new traits have multiple sources, hoarding is less likely.



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Edited on 05/08/24 @ 10:25:18 by JAX • 3.12.21 12/15 | 14/15 BO (#98288)

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Posted on
2024-08-05 10:24:33
#3 I like, it's similar to Wolvden and it seems like it would be slightly more fair than waiting years to actually win a raffle lioness. (I've been on Lioden for 11 years... not one raffle lioness of any variety). But that's just me, I'm frustrated in not having won one yet.

I'll see what the general player population things about the other ideas. I'd be all for anything really as long as it's fair and gives casual players as much of a chance as the grinders and all.




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Posted on
2024-08-05 10:25:29
As a player of less than 2 years, I am so excited for the ideas! I was wondering how many RLs were going to inactive accounts and didn't know if I should inquire or what. The limited rollover is so fair and would make it easier for those who play regularly to get a chance to impress the current RL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH!



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Romana (#14743)

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Posted on
2024-08-05 10:27:09
People, please read carefully: the last option is for a SECOND raffle for long term rollers, not one that does away with the original raffle. Dig the idea of a super special RLC. It rewards dedicated players without “punishing” younger ones.

A RLC for every day is nuts. It’s hard and expensive just keeping one line alive in my account.

That said, multiple copies of a RL prevents traits from going extinct… or being hoarded. -coughcoughconstellationcoughcough- I dig the idea of an identical raffle stud that insures stuff like the new eyes and skin get released without creating perfect copies of the actual RL. That way the RL remains special.

(Getting a perfect copy of an RL just through multiple RLC studs is like next to impossible and crazy expensive even with items able to be used. I think limited studdings to a RLC stud every week without items would be just fine.)

I don’t like the idea of perfect RLC clones getting released… except if they’re like extinct lines. It could be a special event in March- every RLC is a recreation of an extinct RLC and there’s limited copies eligible to be claimed on explore. Makes a bland event a little more interesting if claiming clones is a once a year thing.




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Posted on
2024-08-05 10:27:12
I like the first option, providing more opportunities for more players to get access to the exclusive traits, it does kind of dampen the exclusivity of the raffle lionesses, though I think the idea of slowly staggering them out helps.

I also like the idea of raffle studs in general. I think this could be a cool feature so it's not limited to one month out of the year. This might have an impact on player studs, but perhaps these NPC studs don't have to be super unique.



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Posted on
2024-08-05 10:27:21
The idea of getting a little extra raffle for being an active player is better than the other options (limiting who can enter like the Wednesday day, or unfair advantages for logging on like #7) and doesn't actively punish anyone.



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2024-08-05 10:29:02
The # of times you can breed to a raffle stud should be limited of course, i feel like 1 per account is pretty just.



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In My Dreams *PBC* (#7497)

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Posted on
2024-08-05 10:30:30
Sounds awesome. Love the the news



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Posted on
2024-08-05 10:30:46
First off THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU DEVS for listening to the RL woes. I am big big big on spreading traits. This game reaaaally needs raffle studs at this point. Being able to hoard a marking/slot is completely counterintuitive to the whole point of these gals, and there are just SO many markings and slots that to re-request a new gal with the same marking/slot has got to be cumbersome. That makes option 1, 2, and 3 really useful. Clones are great and all, but I've always appreciated mixing traits far more than making straight clones.

I absolutely LOVE and am here for option 7. Rewarding more veteran players with an extra incentive while continuing to allow everyone an opportunity for a RL is a fantastic idea. I love this so much.

I am happy to FINALLY read about coming changes regardless, but I still think it could help to implement some sort of claim/accept system instead of just having the gal thrown into the winner's account, which I think would be a better "active player" alternative instead of claiming from Wednesday.

Also back in the day there were less BO traits on the gals - maybe at some point T0 and T1s could be made more useful via random marking evolutions/deviations similar to Wolvden. It makes me sad something so great like underfur gets passed over now just because it's not BO. (But, a suggestion for another day.)



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