-LOCKED - Discussion: Raffle Lionesses
Posted on 2024-08-05 08:57:00
We are aware of some issues that the community has been voicing with the raffle lioness system, with some complaints including it being difficult to pass on raffle-exclusive traits, raffle lionesses going to inactive accounts, and so on. We have had our own discussion among the developers and would now like to present a discussion where the community can provide feedback on the ideas we have outlined below regarding how the system can be modified, and possibly even give their own ideas if they aren't already covered.

We will be closely monitoring this topic to record feedback, which we will then use for an upcoming site poll.


New Features Being Implemented

We have some features that will be added regardless of feedback within a future update:

New Features We May Implement


* Adjusting the raffle lioness system so that only players who have been active in the last two days (so Wednesdays onward) will have a chance to win when the raffle lioness is pulled
* Sending an email notification to the player who won the weekly raffle lioness


New Features We're Considering/Discussing

These are features we have had ideas for, or have found in the Game Development forums, and would like to see which of the following would be most preferred.

** 1. Storing raffle lioness designs and releasing them slowly through explore.
Essentially, this would mean creating multiple copies of the same raffle lioness to be slow-dripped into the game through the claiming system. They would work as chased lionesses, so only kings with Average impression or higher could find them. This would likely come with a failsafe so that if the lioness fails to be claimed, she goes back into the chased pool so another player has a chance to claim her. All raffle lionesses are made with the Nurturing (Good) personality, so raffle lionesses released through the claiming system would display the Good pose.

The first week, Raffle Lioness 1 is pulled and sent to the winner, and Raffle Lioness 2 is put up to be impressed. The second week, Raffle Lioness 2 is pulled and sent to the winner, Raffle Lioness 3 is put up to be impressed, and a clone of Raffle Lioness 1 is put into the chased lioness pool in explore. The third week, Raffle Lioness 3 is pulled and sent to the winner, Raffle Lioness 4 is put up to be impressed, and clones of Raffle Lionesses 1 and 2 are put into the chased pool in explore. This repeats up to a maximum of 9 clones, making for 10 total lionesses with the same design.

A graph to show the overall release schedule for raffle lionesses through explore.
[Click to view the image full-sized]




** 2. Releasing an identical replica raffle stud alongside a raffle lioness.
The stud would have the exact same traits as the raffle lioness, but rather than being delivered to a winner's territory, a select amount of players (between 20-50) would win the ability to breed with him. This would work similarly to August's event studs in that items could not be used on the stud for breeding. We also considered, if implementing replica studs, to allow all players to enter for a chance to win a stud breeding, but lock weekly raffle lionesses so that only accounts that have 365 or more total rollovers (not consecutive) would be eligible to try and impress her.


** 3. Implementing raffle studs in general.
An alternative to releasing an identical replica raffle stud would be releasing a raffle stud alongside a raffle lioness who may share similar traits, e.g. if a raffle lioness is releasing a brand new eye colour, the raffle stud that week would have that eye colour as well, or if she is releasing a brand new raffle marking, the raffle stud that week would have that marking as well (either in the same slot, or a different slot). Breedings to this stud would also be limited to 20-50 players weekly, and items would not be allowed. This would also come with all players being able to enter for a chance to win a stud breeding, but locking weekly raffle lionesses so that only accounts that have 365 or more total rollovers (not consecutive) would be eligible to try and impress her.


** 4. Releasing more than one raffle lioness per week.
This would either be multiple identical copies of the same raffle lioness, or up to 3 different raffle lionesses at once who would share some of the same traits, but not be identical.


** 5. Releasing recreated copies of previous raffle lionesses who are on banned/closed accounts.
This would be making a replica of the raffle lioness to raffle off through the official raffle system. The original raffle lioness would stay on the same account. This is specifically only for permanently suspended accounts, and accounts that have been closed—not inactive accounts that are not suspended/closed.


** 6. Allow the weekly raffle lioness to be impressed daily instead of once weekly for higher chances of winning, therefore rewarding more active players.
The weekly raffle lioness would still be available for a full week as usual, but daily impression attempts will add up and give a greater chance at winning her as compared to only one attempt per week (how it currently works).


** 7. Add a second raffle lioness for players who have rolled over at least 365 times in total (not consecutively), with potentially more unique traits than a standard Dreamboat raffle lioness.
Players who have rolled over 365 or more times would have the ability to impress both the standard Dreamboat raffle lioness, as well as a second raffle lioness that is only available to accounts with 365+ total rollovers.





We may mix-and-match some of the options, but we will be polling the community on these options regardless.

If you have any ideas or suggestions that were not listed above, we would appreciate your input and highly encourage you to provide a detailed response within this news post!

We will be deleting any comments that do not actually contribute to the discussion.



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Edited on 05/08/24 @ 10:34:29 by Katze (#3)

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Posted on
2024-08-05 11:30:32
@ronnie smooching u for real

my actual contribution is that raffle studs sounds wonderful and ronnie has demonstrated that we can have similar raffle studs without taking away uniqueness from the raffle lioness - which some people have pointed out as a concern



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nadine🪷 (#311501)

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2024-08-05 11:31:53
4, 5, and 6 sounds amazing to have! 💕💕



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Loki'sTrick (#225448)

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Posted on
2024-08-05 11:31:56
I would love raffle studs! that would be so cool.



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2024-08-05 11:32:14
@ Casey, I'll be real I didn't think of that. That's an awesome benefit too, nobody is out here using or breeding onyx gradient 1.



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2024-08-05 11:32:30
I love this idea. It’s a good chance for those of us who don’t have the money to buy loads of gb or breeding items to obtain a raffle lioness or clone etc. which has been my dream, along with many others. It also helps ensure that not only those with high currency or items needed to breed raffle lionesses have a fair shot as well. I’ve been waiting and hoping something like this happens. I think the run by I’ve read on the original post is a good enough start though not perfect.



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Edited on 05/08/24 @ 12:17:52 by dark lion (#54526)

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2024-08-05 11:32:59
So I'm going to just put my thoughts here on each idea, numbered the same so it's easy to follow.

May implement:
* I don't like the idea of Wednesday onward RO limit. I also don't think it would fix the issue, as someone could put in a ticket Thursday and then still go inactive.
*An email notif may help folks remember to atleast hop on and sell the RL or something.

Discussing

1. RL traits are really sought after, but I feel that immediately releasing a second clone the week after significantly reduces the desirability of the RL it's self. Not that it's a bad idea but it feels too immediate. Eventually releasing some seems like a good idea but if possible it may be fairer to push the clone releases out a couple weeks (a month maybe?) or just lions with (some of) the new traits instead of actual clones with the original timeline?

2. + 3. Raffle studs would be interesting. However not sure I like limiting the studding numbers, but it's fair enough. As an alternative idea I think maxing it out to one studding per person at a fairly high price (750 sb?) would keep the trait rarity. This is especially true due to the fact there's be no guarantee that the desired trait would pass. I also like the idea of the stud not being identical but similar. I feel like locking the raffle lioness behind 365 roll overs might not be the fairest option, as some folks get on 2-3 times a week, but consistently and making it to were it takes 2 + years for them to get to RLs would be a bit discouraging. Especially since daily RO isn't realistic for most folks due to work or school. If you want to go by ROs 90- 120 might be a good option. Alternativly you could lock it behind real time. Making it locked behind 3-6 months after joining would reduce the likelyhood of them going to inactive users. Or keep the year idea but make it from join date?


4. Multiple RLs would probably work, however I think it would be best if they were not clones, but all got the new traits. That away NRLC/ RLC breeders would still have their preferred niche (and more options at that).

5. I think this would be fair enough, actually. No notes.

6. I prefer the equality of the current 1 ticket per person system. As stated earlier, many folks have real life obligations and frankly not being able to RO every day shouldn't be punished (which is what this seems to be).

7. Locking a second RL would be pretty fair, but I still don't like the RO lock due to my previous explanation, especially not that long of one.



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2024-08-05 11:33:27
@casey that is a banger comment wth i didnt even think about that



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2024-08-05 11:33:27
I really like the idea of releasing clones to be claimed, And I like the idea of having a rollover requirement (Being active in the past two days). I’m not opposed to a raffle stud But it doesn’t excite me as much as the other options. I also think Multiple clones work well Because they’ll still be rare enough to hold value, but it can stop gatekeeping, Which is completely fair, but it just sucks.

* edit
I think not having a fail safe would be a better idea 👀 kinda up the stakes, also makes it so there’s not a guarantee of there being a certain amount of RL
Also it would so cool if the encounter had a special notice or something for you to immediately know it’s a RL, or even once the lioness is claimed their name says they’re a RL or has the og’s date, specifically cause I’m stupid and would lose a RL thinking it’s just a normal chased 🫠

** second edit
Or maybe if people think it ruins the aspect of the rarity of RL, claimable “clones” could only be a NRLC, like maybe a 10/15, or 14/15, so they’re still accessible but not an exact replica.
Also if it’s decided against adding more RL, limiting it to 365 RO, RO within 2 days, and maybe even account standing minimum (someone who is likely to be suspended won’t win it) but that would have to be like, super low.



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Edited on 05/08/24 @ 11:57:08 by little psycho|G1 Ebony Vit Pie (#416283)

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2024-08-05 11:34:28
@ Ronnie I think about the gorilla enclave rehaul every single day and I think your suggestion would help with that AND the raffle lioness system so it's honestly *chefs kiss* to me



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Posted on
2024-08-05 11:35:19
I like the idea of raffle studs!



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StarfallenGlory (#477446)

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2024-08-05 11:36:17
I love the idea of putting RL clones into explore, and I think it's for sure very good to have RL's impressible on the daily as well as the RL's only going to those who are more active <3



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2024-08-05 11:36:22
-DISCUSSION-

1. Absolutely terrible. Completely defeats the purpose of having raffle lions at all and rapidly inflates the rl pool. Not to mention being highly advantageous to those with the time and money to sink into energy boosts and explore grinding.

2 & 3. This is fine only if the stud isnt an exact replica of the rl. A: because thats boring, B: that takes away the value and attenion of the OG rl. I only see these being good additions if they have their own exclusive bo marks similar to the august studs, and/or have only 1-3 traits possessed by that rl. Maybe mix and match so they're unique in their own way, and decrease the amount of people able to breed to them.

^ Adding to this- I like the idea of locking raffles to accounts that have played a year, this would be an extra measure against people creating more accounts to enter raffles, and promote long-time players. Would also decrease the total amount of people participating in a raffle, which would in turn increase your chances of getting it.

4. Almost as bad as 1, directly tanks the value of an rl by putting even more rls into the market. Especially making them replicas or giving them the same traits as the first one. We already have crunchy worms for that, this just speeds up the economy crisis by allowing multiple rls to be claimed, cloned, bred, and sold in a week.

5. Alright now this one is actually decent. This wouldnt affect freeze accounts, just suspended ones. And there have been accounts in the past with rl lines that disappeared along with them, so would be nice to get those back in circulation. Hell of a lot quicker than waiting someones revival project to kick off.

6. Terrible. Feels like an added chore to go and reimpress a lioness every day, and creates a further rift between the people who have the time and energy to dedicate to rolling every single day to do that, and the people who dont have that luxury or drive. This also means the raffle is no longer equal chance.

7. Not necessary if adding the rl studs, since normal rls would already be limited to older players.

-MAY IMPLEMENT-

*I dont think this would be helpful to anyone. Some people just dont have the time to roll multiple times consecutively in a week. Some people dont feel like rolling multiple times just to have a chance at something. Makes it feel more like a chore when you have to think about what your missing if you dont roll. And if the raffle is already limited to people with 365 rollovers then those people have already played fairly actively, no need to narrow it down even further. Its just easier and simpler to keep the raffle open all week.

*Eh, sure why not.

Overall these changes feel like a turn for the worse for lioden. Everything has already tanked in value since the massive player influx and it hasnt been looking any better since then. This is because the player count already directly impacts how many items and lions are in circulation. The only thing keeping rls afloat in the market is the fact that they are much more limited in how many people can get their hands on them. Even with cloning, many rl lines still manage to hold some value because they all start from a single lion. Theres no reason to expedite the process of diminishing returns.



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Edited on 05/08/24 @ 15:47:35 by Ominous_Odyssey (#239067)

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2024-08-05 11:37:39
@ Casey, I'm so relieved honestly lmao. GE really does make me question how well I know the game sometimes with throwing out a marking I haven't seen mentioned in 9 months. Little marks like that on the raffle studs being a common theme is big brained as hell and I'm honestly embarrassed I didn't realise the benefit.



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2024-08-05 11:38:50
THIS IS A NEED PLEASE

I love black rose and to see all of em on dead or inactive accounts is painful


Just leave PRIVATE or SEMI private lines OUT of this



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Edited on 05/08/24 @ 11:40:04 by Akuma|RLC collector|22|lines (#317175)

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2024-08-05 11:39:55
I love the idea of the year thing, but also keeping the regular raffle girl for everyone to try for. The studs are also a really good idea. Maybe with the daily one it's like the celestial girls where they have only a few marks and a rl exclusive base



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