Option 2 and 3 are best in my opinion, it would allow the features to become more avaible for breeding projects and general breeding. It also would make mixing traits when bred to raffle stud which would reduce the monotomy of rlc kings and bring more uniqueness for potential bo-heavy kings or cubs in general

Option 1 feels little too sparce, 10 special lions amongs the thousands and thousands of chased lioness that might take years to find, let alone claim.
Option 6 feels little unfair towards those with only one account since they would potentially get buried under the two account impressers
And other option feel like old system but multiplied which could still face the same issues as the current rl system, such as hiatuses after claiming the raffle gal, quitting or privatization of lines

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Alright. Honestly? I don't think any of these options are particularly good in the stage that they're being described.

You have to remember the market for RLs are clinging on by the skin of their teeth rn. And the majority of these options would kill the market out for them. There's the argument of "well no one should have to spend that much money on one lion" but I'd say it's up to each individual player on whether they want to spend that much. It sucks that the only options to make good money outside of breeding items on the game are through rls, hybrids and rosettes but in order to keep the market afloat you need to keep certain lions expensive. Without a good market, players lose interest and the game crashes.

Just look at dwarfs and scrots for example. The price for scrots should logically be much higher than they are. But with dwarfs such a loss in money and no one wanting to buy them the only things keeping scrots going are DU breedings (those are also losing their worth fast), and mane breedings. Along with the dedicated dwarf breeders but I can see those dying out in the coming year or so.

You could argue that hybrids and buffies aren't doing particularly well but that's normal to happen especially just after a hybrid drop. Prices will rise when the hype dies down and the stock everyone had to breed jaglions are sold.

Onto the suggestions:

- I don't like the idea of accounts being active two days before the rl winner is pulled at all. As someone else pointed out in a reply from their own experience playing the game there are players who have tried to get RLs for years - I'm by no means saying they're entitled to them but it's just a fact. Some of those players can't roll over week days regardless on how quick it is to log on, RO and feed lions. They just can't. So now those players who have been trying to get an rl for years suddenly can't get one because they can't roll over on weekdays doesn't sit well with me.

- Releasing rls through explore. While I think this is a great idea I think it's also a sure fire way to run the rl market into the ground and put the final nail in the metaphorical coffin. Ten of the same rl released is way too much. The influx of clones would be insane.
I have thought of other ways they could do it but it does come with its pros and cons. The one way that stuck out to me is having 2-3 rls released over the 10 week period versus the 10. But then you're left with the problem of the vast amount of players being upset because the rl they wanted chased wasn't chased. You can call it whatever you want, entitlement, whatever. But it's just bound to happen. There are going to be people upset.

- releasing an identical replica of the rl as a stud I think would be the option that would pose the least amount of issues to players, traits not being released to the public, but also not crashing the market. I do think that the use of a Buffy should be allowed if you chose the lower end of the 20-50 player range. But not if you chose the higher range. Imagine getting the chance to stud to the rl and you get a one cub litter. That is just awful. If you're allowing multiple studdings per player who won then definitely the lower end and no buddy allowed.
However one thing I can definitely see posing a problem is the 365 total ROs. THAT I hate. You're basically cutting down the amount of active players that can get an rl half - big exaggeration there but shush. Again, I think that will cause more uproar than you're trying to solve.

- I think option three is ehhh okay? The way you're describing it is a little vague. If the stud literally JUST has the new trait then no. I wouldn't bother for it. But if it had the trait as well as looking different to the rl then yeah! I'd love that. Again, same as before regarding the amount of people, use of buffies, and the 365 ro requirement.

- I think I like the sound of option 4 the most if you weren't going to tweak anything about the options. It doesn't take away the uniqueness of having an rl and I don't see it being a major crash to the rl economy. Rls are sold at high prices because they're unique. Because they're special. Having three different unique rls while yes, could cause a dint in the economy I don't see it having as bad as an effect standing up against the chased rl option.

- Option 5 I'm not entirely against? But I saw someone point out how that could just ruin people's recreation projects.

- option 6 I also like the sound of but I feel like lowering the price to impress the lioness would be a good thing to consider. The rl is open to anyone regardless of how new they are so long as their king has dreamboat impression. Newer players may struggle to cough up 50sb every day or 350sb a week.

- again, I don't like the idea of option 7. At all. I do like the idea of having another raffle lioness but that would pretty be the same as your previous idea. Again, I thought of another way but it's not without its flaws
Open up 2-3 raffle lionesses and players can only choose to impress one. Have those with linked accounts unable to impress a different lioness on their side. But here comes the flaw - not every player has their accounts linked. And you can't exactly say "one account from one IP address" due to those who have 2 people from the same IP address playing.

Personally I think all these options could be good options but they all need tweaking. I feel like sending them out how they are would cause a bigger uproar then you're trying to solve.

I think the exact replica stud or the 2-3 different rl options would work best without rhe 365 ro requirement. For the happiness of players, the stability of the market, and getting traits out here.

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Personally I feel like having full clones as the rl version of chased ncls is kinda taking the fun out of breeding & recreating dead or dying lines, maybe instead have claimable lions have specific rl marks? Since alot of dead rl lines have marks that are also unobtainable bc the lions that had them died off or lost that mark. It would make ground up rl breedings alot easier

But also can yall address the fact alot of vet/whale players will hoard rls or rlcs as status points(just like with hybrids) but refuse to breed them or even sell the nrlcs because they like the feeling of having the only clones?

But I do like the idea of sending a email of winning a rl, as I sometimes go on my alt for several days and don't check this one and while breeding is based on rolls the raffle isn't so some wouldn't know that they won that girl bc they don't check that account so the on site notif wouldn't be worth it so irl emails would be a good idea!

Also I know this is probably about the con rl as I see private lines as a way of hoarding because I see it as greedy. I love clans that try to help others who are breeding rls and trading/giving away nrlcs bc it's nice for newbies have atleast a start at making a clone as rls are so expensive yk?

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** 1. Storing raffle lioness designs and releasing them slowly through explore.
I love this idea!

** 2. Releasing an identical replica raffle stud alongside a raffle lioness.
** 3. Implementing raffle studs in general.
Both of these are great ideas though I think 3 is the better one :)

** 4. Releasing more than one raffle lioness per week.
I think 1 a week is fine.

** 5. Releasing recreated copies of previous raffle lionesses who are on banned/closed accounts.
Yes!
** 6. Allow the weekly raffle lioness to be impressed daily instead of once weekly for higher chances of winning, therefore rewarding more active players.
Maybe increase the impressing cost by 5 SB each time?


** 7. Add a second raffle lioness for players who have rolled over at least 365 times in total (not consecutively), with potentially more unique traits than a standard Dreamboat raffle lioness.
Players who have rolled over 365 or more times would have the ability to impress both the standard Dreamboat raffle lioness, as well as a second raffle lioness that is only available to accounts with 365+ total rollovers.
I like this idea too :)

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I really like the 1, 3 and 5!! :D those are what i like the most but honestly im fine with any option!

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I still say if this is implemented keep it AWAY from private or semi private lines

Cause I’ve seen private, Semi private line owners hate the idea

And that’s understandable

They want their lines private let them have that!

And before you say it

Private line owners and semi private line owners sometimes will sell or chase cubs with some of the special rl exclusives like the constellation is doing with the phase eye cubs

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I would love for the raffle lioness to only go to active accounts, as well as being able to impress her daily for higher chances. I'm not too keen on adding more than one raffle lioness as I think that may tank their value, but I think the raffle studs might be a good idea

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@akuma I mean you can't exactly keep it away from private and semi private players in they're paying to enter the raffle

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For the chased one I feel adding that their chase mechanic works differently is important so it isn't just like a chased!

So if someone claims her she isn't labeled 'newly Claimed Lioness" and is labeled "Special Lioness" and they get a notification for claiming her/email and also gets a spot in the announcements that a chased rl was claimed!

Bc otherwise it might lead to a lot of issues of scamming/chasing/abuse in the player base and cause a lot of distrust among each other

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@sunshine

I edited my response please reread it

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3 is my absolute favorite! It guarantees a much higher chance to release new markings while also staying true to the unique and special nature of RLs.
Option 1 is a surefire way to destroy the rl market 100%, and while it does sound fun, it makes them feel less special and will essentially take away the profit for a lot of people in that scene.
What option 3 offers is a way to release the new markings and traits to a select group, and in turn adds a fun new design to the mix! This feels like a perfect balance to me so it won't ultimately crash the RL market and save project breeders a headache trying to get their hands on super elusive markings!

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Also think about this they never mentioned what would happen If someone wins the RL and the same person finds the chased on the same account or alt

The person would have BOTH raffle lionesses that day

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For 1-4, this would do irreparable damage to the economy on this site, especially the first option. The raffle lioness is meant to be a dream and a far end goal for players, to either get lucky with a chance of winning one day, or working hard to save up to buy a clone.
It would not be fair for players who spent hundreds if not thousands of GB in breeding items and buying clones/RLs if we made it easier to obtain them.
When the Jag boosts released the hybrid market for tigons and leopons tanked. The Leopard Tail item has also tanked the value of rosettes now as well. Raffle Clones are the only big thing with value on this site anymore. Its nice that people are now appreciating breed only traits but its like a slap in the face for people who worked hard for them.

For 5, I'm actually fine with this. There are many RLs that are lost because they are attached to banned accounts so bringing them back to the public would be nice.

For 6, it feels like more work to roll every single day and re-impress a raffle lioness, and can punish players who are normally very active but an IRL occurrence happens and they can't roll (family situation, health complication, power/internet outage, etc.).
And people are just going to forget. This is overall more of a nuisance than a reward for active players.

For 7, this is also bad and will crash the market as well.

Overall, a lot of these are really poor ideas. They sound nice if you are thinking of just yourself, but this will affect tens of thousands of players and will tank the longevity of the game overall.
Newer players should work for hybrids and RLCs and other projects.

And players who have been playing for a long time need something to work on. We have so many breed only bases and now new rare bases that are essentially useless. We need more combos for bases, manes, and eyes. Maybe even combo markings as well.
We need something to work towards, not something to make things easier.

Tl;dr:
All of those suggestions are terrible except number 5.

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my thoughts::

1.) i feel like this would diminish the value of raffle lionesses overall, and make them have less of an appeal when it comes to winning rls or being able to get one eventually. this overall would diminish the idea that “congratulations, you have won your first rl!” for anyone that hasn’t before when it’ll be easy for others to get it.

2.) i like this idea, implementing a stud for people to breed to, allows people to get the markings or maybe if RNG allows, a possible clone that they bred to. Locking accounts for new raffle lionesses would be an awesome idea, so that people who are active more frequently (even if they happen to be inactive for a few days because life does happen and not everyone can rollover constantly) would make it easier for rls to be won by people who play the game more and not go onto a banned account, banned accounts or suspended accounts should automatically be pulled if it happens the week of the rl.

3.) like i said before, i like the idea

4.) i think with how massive the player base is, releasing 3 copies of similar rls would be a good idea. they’re not exactly the same but they will have similar features, and going to 3 players gives people more of a chance to win instead of it being the .001%

5.) I LOVE THIS IDEA! because there has been many lionesses that i want and i get so disappointed when i find out they’re on banned accounts. i would love to have recreations of lionesses that never got their chance in the sun

6.) i think having the one ticket system makes it fair for everyone, even if it is about people being active every single day. even active people could forget that they can do that if they want to win badly.

7.) i like this idea, basically releasing two rls a week, if they’re completely different, would be a really good idea.


thank you guys for working on this for us 🫶🏻

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@akuma yeah but that doesn't change what you're saying. They for starters can't psychically keep it away from private and semi-private line players. Secondly if they want to enter they have every right to?

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