Posted by Cracking The Rosette Code?

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Posted on
2017-05-24 15:44:52
According to the Wiki,
"Rosettes seem to be the most popular marking on Lioden currently, due to the mysterious nature of how they're passed on, and the fact that they can randomly pop up in any breeding. There are tons of user theories and conspiracies floating around regarding how Rosette works, but nobody truly knows—the code has yet to be cracked."

This could be taken to imply that they are truly random ("the fact that they can randomly pop up in any breeding"), but it can also imply that there is, in fact, a code ("the code has yet to be cracked").


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Exhibit A:
Cream Rosette

Mother was chased, but had the following:
Base: Cream (White Nose)
Mane Type: Normal
Mane Color: Brown
Eye Color: Grey
Slot 1: Onyx Ripple
Slot 2: Chocolate Top
Slot 6: Feline 7 Black

Dad had the following:
Base: Silver Grey (White Nose)
Mane Type: Sideburn
Mane Color: Lilac
Eye Color: Lavender
Slot 1: Feline 1 Dark Brown
Slot 2: White Tips
Slot 3: Feline 2 Onyx
Slot 4: Feline 6 Onyx
Slot 5: Feline 4 Onyx
Slot 6: Feline 1 Onyx
Slot 8: White Undercoat
Slot 9: Feline 3 Onyx
Slot 10: Onyx Lace
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Exhibit B:
Gold Rosette

Mom had the following:
Base: Dark Vanilla (Fallow Nose)
Mane Type: Diabolic
Mane Color: Lilac
Eye Color: Pink
Slot 1: Brown Mask
Slot 4: Feline 6 Dark Brown
Slot 5: Feline 4 Onyx

Dad had the following:
Base: Blush Rose (White Nose)
Mane Type: Diabolic
Mane Color: Manakbir
Eye Color: Peach
Slot 1: Feline 7 Ginger
Slot 2: Feline 1 Black
Slot 3: Rose Pelage
Slot 4: Maroon Pelage
Slot 5: Onyx Lace
Slot 6: Feline 4 Silver
Slot 7: Feline 2 Ginger
Slot 8: White Panther
Slot 9: Under White 4
Slot 10: Feline 3 Onyx
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Exhibit C:
Brown Rosette

Mom had the following:
Base: Dun (White Nose)
Mane Type: Tsavo
Mane Color: Maroon
Eye Color: White
Slot 1: White Cobweb
Slot 6: Vitiligo 3
Slot 7: Vitiligo 2
Slot 9: Vitiligo 4

Dad had the Following:
Base: Onyx (Brown Nose)
Mane Type: Savage
Mane Color: Unholy
Eye Color: Saffron
Slot 4: Feline 6 Onyx
Slot 5: Feline 2 Onyx
Slot 6: Feline 1 Onyx
Slot 7: Feline 7 Onyx
Slot 8: Feline 5 Onyx
Slot 9: Feline 3 Onyx
Slot 10: Feline 4 Onyx

Do you see a pattern?
I do.
Every. Single. Father. Has. At. Least. One. Feline. Marking.
See it?
Maybe parents with Feline markings produce rosettes, but it's rare.

Credit: Empress Tansy (#54105)




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Edited on 02/09/18 @ 10:03:23 by starfruit [with a lowercase s] (#112180)

Quit (#412633)

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Posted on
2024-03-15 09:28:06
I didn't notice that, but it seems you're right. What about specific inverteds? There's an inverted for every ros shape, so maybe they follow the same pattern as their non-inverted counterparts?



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Askura {Main} (#230132)

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Posted on
2024-03-15 09:36:01
I was told to come here by a friend.

So this morning I was looking over my new cubs and this kiddo had a random Noctis Rosette marking: https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794214889438

It's in the same slot as the Sunrise Vitiligo the father has. The mother was a random February NCL from a few years back (I just came back to the game after a long hiatus) that has only Cherry Glaze in slot one.

I don't think either parents had any factors for getting a rosette? And I wasn't exactly looking for a rosette in my breedings either, it just sort of happened lol.



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Quit (#412633)

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Posted on
2024-03-15 09:40:52
@Askura I don't spot anything that could qualify as a cat marking on either parent. If I had to guess it could be the white blaze, but I don't know



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nebula 💫 (#434371)

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Posted on
2024-03-15 09:47:45
@askura that one might actually be random, i dunno



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Posted on
2024-03-15 10:00:33
@Zaba

What are the marking names? Cause I'm confused



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Zaba (#296262)

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Posted on
2024-03-15 11:42:47
For soft, one parent has to have a marking with 'under' in the name. Such as soft unders, rugged unders, undersides, or under 5
For shaded, one parent has to have a mane marking of any kind. Such as low flow, back hair, ringed, or cowl
Heavy rosette can spawn in any breeding, but it's way more frequent if one parent has a marking with feline in the name
Rosette seems to be completely random, but I'm working to find a marking that can boost it similarly to heavy and feline.
Inverted rosettes of all shapes and colors have showed up willy nilly in my trials so I've got no idea how to approach those yet

The markings themselves don't look like the rosettes. It just looks like lioden was trying to pick the most common marking types, along with ones that could spawn on NCLs to throw off suspicion



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Posted on
2024-03-15 12:56:34
What if one is Inverted Shaded/Soft? Do they follow the Inverted criteria or both Inverted and shaded/soft?


S7 Briar Shaded Rosette



https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794211177575

Mother-
Slot 2: Brown Back Hair (20%) Tier 0

Father-
Slot 1: Noctis Indri (64%) Tier 2
Slot 2: White Inverted Zebra (30%) Tier 2
Slot 3: Lilac Freckles 1 (77%) Tier 2
Slot 4: Feline 9 Noctis (68%) Tier 2
Slot 5: Noctis Panther (47%) Tier 2
Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (67%) Tier 2
Slot 7: Lilac Crackle (30%) Tier 2
Slot 8: White Facial 1 (75%) Tier 1
Slot 9: White Ear Spots (60%) Tier 1
Slot 10: Lilac Freckles 2 (69%) Tier 2

S8 Inverted Soft Rosette Saffron



https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794206414689

Mother-
[Deleted]

Father-
Slot 1: Noctis Indri (60%)
Slot 2: White Inverted Zebra (78%)
Slot 3: Lilac Freckles 1 (82%)
Slot 4: Feline 9 Noctis (63%)
Slot 5: Noctis Panther (59%)
Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (71%)
Slot 7: Lilac Crackle (27%)
Slot 8: White Facial 1 (79%)
Slot 9: White Ear Spots (59%)
Slot 10: Lilac Freckles 2 (79%)

S9 Fiery Inverted Shaded Rosette



https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794211177683

Mother-
[Deleted]

Father-
Slot 1: Noctis Indri (64%) Tier 2
Slot 2: White Inverted Zebra (30%) Tier 2
Slot 3: Lilac Freckles 1 (77%) Tier 2
Slot 4: Feline 9 Noctis (68%) Tier 2
Slot 5: Noctis Panther (47%) Tier 2
Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (67%) Tier 2
Slot 7: Lilac Crackle (30%) Tier 2
Slot 8: White Facial 1 (75%) Tier 1
Slot 9: White Ear Spots (60%) Tier 1
Slot 10: Lilac Freckles 2 (69%) Tier 2

S6 Gold Inverted Shaded Rosette



https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794209115429

Mother-
Slot 2: Sunset Lace (51%) Tier 3
Slot 7: White Lace (38%) Tier 2
Slot 8: Rhino Feline (23%) Tier 3
Slot 9: Dim Noctis (21%) Tier 2
Slot 10: Ukame Feralis (21%) Tier 3

Father-
Slot 1: Dawn Margay (41%)
Slot 2: Under White 1 (47%)
Slot 3: Dawn Flare (100%)
Slot 4: Dawn Valiant (52%)
Slot 5: Cimmerian Shepherd (60%)
Slot 6: Henna Cheetah Soft (67%)
Slot 7: Ginger Indri (17%)
Slot 8: Under Silky 2 (56%)
Slot 10: Dark Brown Quarter Spotting (35%)


S9 Fiery Soft Rosette



https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794208462568

Mother-
Slot 1: Noctis Indri (29%) Tier 2
Slot 2: White Inverted Zebra (39%) Tier 2
Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (38%) Tier 2
Slot 8: White Facial 1 (50%) Tier 1
Slot 9: White Ear Spots (39%) Tier 1
Slot 10: Under Silky 2 (81%) Tier 0

Father-
Slot 1: Noctis Indri (60%) Tier 2
Slot 2: White Inverted Zebra (78%) Tier 2
Slot 3: Lilac Freckles 1 (82%) Tier 2
Slot 4: Feline 9 Noctis (63%) Tier 2
Slot 5: Noctis Panther (59%) Tier 2
Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (71%) Tier 2
Slot 7: Lilac Crackle (27%) Tier 2
Slot 8: White Facial 1 (79%) Tier 1
Slot 9: White Ear Spots (59%) Tier 1
Slot 10: Lilac Freckles 2 (79%) Tier 2



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Mags (#161359)

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Posted on
2024-03-15 14:46:45
My king has thrown two red rosettes, heavy red rosette slot 2 and shaded rosette slot 3. Here’s markings for my king as well as the mother of the shaded. Unfortunately the heavy rosettes mom was chased before I knew better, but she was an ebony base can’t remember any markings :/

King(Elysian)-

Slot 1: Cimmerian Zebra (50%)
Slot 2: Onyx Quagga (57%)
Slot 3: Bushveld Quagga (1%)
Slot 4: Leg Banding Briar (61%)
Slot 5: Black Cheetah Soft (19%)
Slot 6: Mottled Rosette (100%)
Slot 7: Feline 3 Elysian (55%)
Slot 8: Feline 2 Lilac (1%)
Slot 9: Feline 7 Elysian (57%)
Slot 10: Cimmerian Shepherd (35%)



Mom of Slot 9 Shaded(Umber base)-

Slot 1: Arctic Smoke (38%)
Slot 3: Glacial Lace (47%)
Slot 4: Under Cream 7 (71%)
Slot 7: Vitiligo 5 (53%)
Slot 8: Angelic Mottled Fissures (74%)
Slot 9: White Rugged Unders (50%)



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Ramune [15 BO Jelly] (#46341)

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Posted on
2024-03-16 03:34:02
https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794215134892
No unders markings on either parent! :o Fiery inverted shaded rosette.



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Vanii [Main] (#36229)

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Posted on
2024-03-16 03:40:39
Mom had Margay + Feline interesting



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•L Ä M P
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Posted on
2024-03-16 03:41:36
https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794215004722

Slot four doubloon soft rosette!

https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794193162742 the mother, I’ve found the most notable markings that might be related to the SR passing are these ones
**Coral Underfur**
**Cream Inverted Brindle**
**Bone Bottom**
•••
Second DSR, Just days apart from the one I just showed.

https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794214291758

The mother

https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794205001727

Once again, She’s got related markings;
Ginger Margay
Ivory Unders
Bone Underfur
White Inverted Brindle

Both were fathered by my king. The only marking I can connect are his Bone feline unders and possibly cockled unders.

https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?mid=152383



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Ramune [15 BO Jelly] (#46341)

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Posted on
2024-03-16 13:43:38
https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794215164205

Double leopard tail breeding result! Normal type rosette.



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kreech (#430477)

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Posted on
2024-03-16 13:51:22
My lead has a feline mark, and she threw a heavy rosette. I gave away the mom tho, but she was an ordinary NCL w/ CRB

https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794211429754



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Zaba (#296262)

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Posted on
2024-03-16 21:37:21
Hey guys, back here to see if there's some info to bridge the gaps.
In my tests, I've been trying to find out what makes briar rosettes spawn. They've been insanely rare, not spawning when logically they should. I've figured they have some sort of criteria like bushveld (Bushveld requires a green-based parent, excluding senegal and bushveld shaded rosette)
Having pink markings did not spawn them, and they have been produced by kings without white markings before(my second lead) Any clues?



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AlexCorvid| (#416170)

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Posted on
2024-03-17 01:45:57
https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794214347014

The Briar Rosette cub I had, zaba.
Dont know if it helps



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