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Posted by | Cracking The Rosette Code? |
🐆 faerie {FROZEN - DM SIDE!} (#112180) View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-05-24 15:44:52 |
According to the Wiki, "Rosettes seem to be the most popular marking on Lioden currently, due to the mysterious nature of how they're passed on, and the fact that they can randomly pop up in any breeding. There are tons of user theories and conspiracies floating around regarding how Rosette works, but nobody truly knows—the code has yet to be cracked." This could be taken to imply that they are truly random ("the fact that they can randomly pop up in any breeding"), but it can also imply that there is, in fact, a code ("the code has yet to be cracked"). ----- Exhibit A: Cream Rosette Mother was chased, but had the following: Base: Cream (White Nose) Mane Type: Normal Mane Color: Brown Eye Color: Grey Slot 1: Onyx Ripple Slot 2: Chocolate Top Slot 6: Feline 7 Black Dad had the following: Base: Silver Grey (White Nose) Mane Type: Sideburn Mane Color: Lilac Eye Color: Lavender Slot 1: Feline 1 Dark Brown Slot 2: White Tips Slot 3: Feline 2 Onyx Slot 4: Feline 6 Onyx Slot 5: Feline 4 Onyx Slot 6: Feline 1 Onyx Slot 8: White Undercoat Slot 9: Feline 3 Onyx Slot 10: Onyx Lace ----- Exhibit B: Gold Rosette Mom had the following: Base: Dark Vanilla (Fallow Nose) Mane Type: Diabolic Mane Color: Lilac Eye Color: Pink Slot 1: Brown Mask Slot 4: Feline 6 Dark Brown Slot 5: Feline 4 Onyx Dad had the following: Base: Blush Rose (White Nose) Mane Type: Diabolic Mane Color: Manakbir Eye Color: Peach Slot 1: Feline 7 Ginger Slot 2: Feline 1 Black Slot 3: Rose Pelage Slot 4: Maroon Pelage Slot 5: Onyx Lace Slot 6: Feline 4 Silver Slot 7: Feline 2 Ginger Slot 8: White Panther Slot 9: Under White 4 Slot 10: Feline 3 Onyx ----- Exhibit C: Brown Rosette Mom had the following: Base: Dun (White Nose) Mane Type: Tsavo Mane Color: Maroon Eye Color: White Slot 1: White Cobweb Slot 6: Vitiligo 3 Slot 7: Vitiligo 2 Slot 9: Vitiligo 4 Dad had the Following: Base: Onyx (Brown Nose) Mane Type: Savage Mane Color: Unholy Eye Color: Saffron Slot 4: Feline 6 Onyx Slot 5: Feline 2 Onyx Slot 6: Feline 1 Onyx Slot 7: Feline 7 Onyx Slot 8: Feline 5 Onyx Slot 9: Feline 3 Onyx Slot 10: Feline 4 Onyx Do you see a pattern? I do. Every. Single. Father. Has. At. Least. One. Feline. Marking. See it? Maybe parents with Feline markings produce rosettes, but it's rare. Credit: Empress Tansy (#54105) 7 players like this post! Like? Edited on 02/09/18 @ 10:03:23 by starfruit [with a lowercase s] (#112180) |
Quit (#412633)
Lone Wanderer View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-15 09:28:06 |
I didn't notice that, but it seems you're right. What about specific inverteds? There's an inverted for every ros shape, so maybe they follow the same pattern as their non-inverted counterparts? 0 players like this post! Like? |
Askura {Main} (#230132)
King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-15 09:36:01 |
I was told to come here by a friend. So this morning I was looking over my new cubs and this kiddo had a random Noctis Rosette marking: https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794214889438 It's in the same slot as the Sunrise Vitiligo the father has. The mother was a random February NCL from a few years back (I just came back to the game after a long hiatus) that has only Cherry Glaze in slot one. I don't think either parents had any factors for getting a rosette? And I wasn't exactly looking for a rosette in my breedings either, it just sort of happened lol. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Quit (#412633)
Lone Wanderer View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-15 09:40:52 |
@Askura I don't spot anything that could qualify as a cat marking on either parent. If I had to guess it could be the white blaze, but I don't know 0 players like this post! Like? |
nebula 💫 (#434371)
Punk View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-15 09:47:45 |
Lucas | G1 Panda Scoundrel RLC (#229229) Malicious View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-15 10:00:33 |
Zaba (#296262)
Usual View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-15 11:42:47 |
For soft, one parent has to have a marking with 'under' in the name. Such as soft unders, rugged unders, undersides, or under 5 For shaded, one parent has to have a mane marking of any kind. Such as low flow, back hair, ringed, or cowl Heavy rosette can spawn in any breeding, but it's way more frequent if one parent has a marking with feline in the name Rosette seems to be completely random, but I'm working to find a marking that can boost it similarly to heavy and feline. Inverted rosettes of all shapes and colors have showed up willy nilly in my trials so I've got no idea how to approach those yet The markings themselves don't look like the rosettes. It just looks like lioden was trying to pick the most common marking types, along with ones that could spawn on NCLs to throw off suspicion 1 player likes this post! Like? |
Lucas | G1 Panda Scoundrel RLC (#229229) Malicious View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-15 12:56:34 |
What if one is Inverted Shaded/Soft? Do they follow the Inverted criteria or both Inverted and shaded/soft? S7 Briar Shaded Rosettehttps://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794211177575 Mother- Slot 2: Brown Back Hair (20%) Tier 0 Father- Slot 1: Noctis Indri (64%) Tier 2 Slot 2: White Inverted Zebra (30%) Tier 2 Slot 3: Lilac Freckles 1 (77%) Tier 2 Slot 4: Feline 9 Noctis (68%) Tier 2 Slot 5: Noctis Panther (47%) Tier 2 Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (67%) Tier 2 Slot 7: Lilac Crackle (30%) Tier 2 Slot 8: White Facial 1 (75%) Tier 1 Slot 9: White Ear Spots (60%) Tier 1 Slot 10: Lilac Freckles 2 (69%) Tier 2 S8 Inverted Soft Rosette Saffronhttps://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794206414689 Mother- [Deleted] Father- Slot 1: Noctis Indri (60%) Slot 2: White Inverted Zebra (78%) Slot 3: Lilac Freckles 1 (82%) Slot 4: Feline 9 Noctis (63%) Slot 5: Noctis Panther (59%) Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (71%) Slot 7: Lilac Crackle (27%) Slot 8: White Facial 1 (79%) Slot 9: White Ear Spots (59%) Slot 10: Lilac Freckles 2 (79%) S9 Fiery Inverted Shaded Rosettehttps://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794211177683 Mother- [Deleted] Father- Slot 1: Noctis Indri (64%) Tier 2 Slot 2: White Inverted Zebra (30%) Tier 2 Slot 3: Lilac Freckles 1 (77%) Tier 2 Slot 4: Feline 9 Noctis (68%) Tier 2 Slot 5: Noctis Panther (47%) Tier 2 Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (67%) Tier 2 Slot 7: Lilac Crackle (30%) Tier 2 Slot 8: White Facial 1 (75%) Tier 1 Slot 9: White Ear Spots (60%) Tier 1 Slot 10: Lilac Freckles 2 (69%) Tier 2 S6 Gold Inverted Shaded Rosettehttps://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794209115429 Mother- Slot 2: Sunset Lace (51%) Tier 3 Slot 7: White Lace (38%) Tier 2 Slot 8: Rhino Feline (23%) Tier 3 Slot 9: Dim Noctis (21%) Tier 2 Slot 10: Ukame Feralis (21%) Tier 3 Father- Slot 1: Dawn Margay (41%) Slot 2: Under White 1 (47%) Slot 3: Dawn Flare (100%) Slot 4: Dawn Valiant (52%) Slot 5: Cimmerian Shepherd (60%) Slot 6: Henna Cheetah Soft (67%) Slot 7: Ginger Indri (17%) Slot 8: Under Silky 2 (56%) Slot 10: Dark Brown Quarter Spotting (35%) S9 Fiery Soft Rosettehttps://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794208462568 Mother- Slot 1: Noctis Indri (29%) Tier 2 Slot 2: White Inverted Zebra (39%) Tier 2 Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (38%) Tier 2 Slot 8: White Facial 1 (50%) Tier 1 Slot 9: White Ear Spots (39%) Tier 1 Slot 10: Under Silky 2 (81%) Tier 0 Father- Slot 1: Noctis Indri (60%) Tier 2 Slot 2: White Inverted Zebra (78%) Tier 2 Slot 3: Lilac Freckles 1 (82%) Tier 2 Slot 4: Feline 9 Noctis (63%) Tier 2 Slot 5: Noctis Panther (59%) Tier 2 Slot 6: Lilac Freckles 3 (71%) Tier 2 Slot 7: Lilac Crackle (27%) Tier 2 Slot 8: White Facial 1 (79%) Tier 1 Slot 9: White Ear Spots (59%) Tier 1 Slot 10: Lilac Freckles 2 (79%) Tier 2 0 players like this post! Like? |
Mags (#161359)
Sapphic View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-15 14:46:45 |
My king has thrown two red rosettes, heavy red rosette slot 2 and shaded rosette slot 3. Here’s markings for my king as well as the mother of the shaded. Unfortunately the heavy rosettes mom was chased before I knew better, but she was an ebony base can’t remember any markings :/ King(Elysian)- Slot 1: Cimmerian Zebra (50%) Slot 2: Onyx Quagga (57%) Slot 3: Bushveld Quagga (1%) Slot 4: Leg Banding Briar (61%) Slot 5: Black Cheetah Soft (19%) Slot 6: Mottled Rosette (100%) Slot 7: Feline 3 Elysian (55%) Slot 8: Feline 2 Lilac (1%) Slot 9: Feline 7 Elysian (57%) Slot 10: Cimmerian Shepherd (35%) Mom of Slot 9 Shaded(Umber base)- Slot 1: Arctic Smoke (38%) Slot 3: Glacial Lace (47%) Slot 4: Under Cream 7 (71%) Slot 7: Vitiligo 5 (53%) Slot 8: Angelic Mottled Fissures (74%) Slot 9: White Rugged Unders (50%) 0 players like this post! Like? |
Ramune [15 BO Jelly] (#46341)
Astral View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-16 03:34:02 |
https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794215134892 No unders markings on either parent! :o Fiery inverted shaded rosette. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Vanii [Main] (#36229)
UwU View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-16 03:40:39 |
•L Ä M P 💡• (#152383) Sapphic View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-16 03:41:36 |
https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794215004722 Slot four doubloon soft rosette! https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794193162742 the mother, I’ve found the most notable markings that might be related to the SR passing are these ones **Coral Underfur** **Cream Inverted Brindle** **Bone Bottom** ••• Second DSR, Just days apart from the one I just showed. https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794214291758 The mother https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794205001727 Once again, She’s got related markings; Ginger Margay Ivory Unders Bone Underfur White Inverted Brindle Both were fathered by my king. The only marking I can connect are his Bone feline unders and possibly cockled unders. https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?mid=152383 0 players like this post! Like? |
Ramune [15 BO Jelly] (#46341)
Astral View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-16 13:43:38 |
https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794215164205 Double leopard tail breeding result! Normal type rosette. 0 players like this post! Like? |
kreech (#430477)
Deathlord of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-16 13:51:22 |
My lead has a feline mark, and she threw a heavy rosette. I gave away the mom tho, but she was an ordinary NCL w/ CRB https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794211429754 0 players like this post! Like? |
Zaba (#296262)
Usual View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-16 21:37:21 |
Hey guys, back here to see if there's some info to bridge the gaps. In my tests, I've been trying to find out what makes briar rosettes spawn. They've been insanely rare, not spawning when logically they should. I've figured they have some sort of criteria like bushveld (Bushveld requires a green-based parent, excluding senegal and bushveld shaded rosette) Having pink markings did not spawn them, and they have been produced by kings without white markings before(my second lead) Any clues? 0 players like this post! Like? |
AlexCorvid| (#416170)
Heavenly View Forum Posts Posted on 2024-03-17 01:45:57 |
https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794214347014 The Briar Rosette cub I had, zaba. Dont know if it helps 0 players like this post! Like? |